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Jon Ludvig Hammer vs Magnus Carlsen
"Can't Touch This" (game of the day Aug-03-2009)
WYCC - B14 (2003), Halkidiki GRE, rd 1, Oct-23
Indian Game: Wade-Tartakower Defense (A04)  ·  0-1
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Nov-26-03  MoonlitKnight: The final move is a nice puzzle. A mate on the 18th move with the queen side rook is probably not an everyday theme.

8.♘h5?! is appearantly the novelty. It certainly makes a strange opening.

Dec-10-03  jaime gallegos: you mean 8...Nh5 sir
Jan-10-04  Dick Brain: Of course. The first move anyone would look at in one of these problems.
Jan-10-04
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  kevin86: An elegant finish:the rook runs from a8 to e8 to e4 to h4 to a postmortem h1 in five moves,only to stop for a queen sac!
Jan-10-04  Dick Brain: <MoonlitKnight> 8.Nh5 seems pretty logical in that position. A black knight heading for f4 is annoying for White.
Jan-10-04  FryGuy1013: I'm not an expert, but the only real move I see flawed from white is 16. Be3. I don't see the purpose of this move. I think 16. Re1 is better in this case as it makes the knight move away or trade with the bishop (and defends the pawn at e4), or makes the pawn capture a knight for pawn (or knight+rook for pawn+rook). Any insight from someone better than I?
Jan-10-04  MoonlitKnight: Perhaps 16.Nd4 would have been best, but that's difficult to see if you don't realize the mate threat.

However, I think several of Hammer's moves must seem ridiculous to IM Carlsen. A 400 point rating gulf is quite a lot.

One of Carlsen's finger notes on ICC simply reads "I'm better than JonLudvig". :) They're good friends off the board.

Jan-10-04  euripides: White is probably hoping to win the knight by 16 Be3; he may also be trying to keep the black queen out of g5. 16 Re1 Rxe4 is similar to the game; the knight on e2 is still protected .
Jan-10-04  talchess2003: i don't see white's plan.. his opening play appeared to be majorly incorrect. He should have just transposed into a king's indian positon here. 3. Nbd2 is interesting, but inferior to Nc3.

for example, 7 c3? White probably realized that the plan of 7. Nc4 b5 8. Ne3 a6 9. a4 did not work due to the simple 7. Nc4 e5 8. dxe5 Nxe5 9. Nxe5 dxe5 10. Nxe5 Nxe4 11. Nxg6 Nxf2 12. Kxf2 Bd4+ 13. Ke1 fxg6 gave black the edge.

Jan-10-04  Shadout Mapes: I like the guy's name, though. Hammer time!
Jan-10-04  Dick Brain: <talchess2003> I think White was doing Ok fora while at least in a strategic sense. His basic development plan is not so unusual against the fianchetto defenses. The pawn at c3 is moced to make the bishop at g7 bite on granite and free space for the white queen.
Jan-11-04
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  patzer2: Some alternatives (Opening & Middle Game):

My preference would have been to play 3. c4 (43% white wins in the Opening Explorer) might be better, staking out central control and transposing back into known mainlines giving White a good chance for advantage. 3. Nbd2 (27% white wins) blocks the bishops, delays central pawn development and takes away the option of developing the knight to it's ideal square on c3. Still, White has a playable game, though not to my taste for classic development and clarity.

5. Be2 (38% white wins) as in Geller vs Schmaltz, 1993 might be more flexible than playing 5. Bd3 (24% White wins), where the Bishop only served a useful function on one diagonal. Still, White has a playable game with chances for a lasting advantage and an initiative.

8. dxe5! as in Taimanov vs Nigel Davies, 1997 or 8. Re1! as in S Ionov vs D Chuprov, 2001 might have been a sound alternative to using a predcious tempo on the prophylactic 8. h3.

9. Nb3 would have given White the opportunity to neutralize Black's coming flank attack on the King with action in the center as in Xu Jun vs Valentin Popa, 1988 with winning chances.

10. Nc4! or 10. Nb3 or 10. Bc4 would have allowed White equality. I think 10. Bb5?! is a less-than-best (dare I say inferior) move that gives Black a slight advantage.

11. Nc4!?, though awkward looking at first, was an opportunity to minimize the Black initiative. And it would have avoided the problems that occured after 11. Nxe5?! Qg5!

16. a4!? was White's last chance to keep the game close (slight black advantage), even though it doesn't fully equalize for White. Other moves leave Black with a clear and strong or decisive advantage. For example, after 16. Re1? Rxe4! wins decisively for Black.

Jan-11-04
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  patzer2: <Moonlight Knight> If 16. Nd4?!,1, then 16...Nxd4! or 16...Bxd4! is winning for Black.
Jan-11-04
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  kevin86: In chess terms:Hammer got nailed!!!
Jan-11-04
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  technical draw: <kevin86> The correct Chess term is: Hammer got pounded!
Jan-11-04  MoonlitKnight: <patzer> You seem to be right that a4 was in fact the best try. My shallow "analysis" simply consisted of glancing at the position and determining what I would have played in a blitz game.

Fritz actually liked Bd3 after the a4 push, so the concept of the move is logical enough.

Jan-11-04
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  patzer2: <MoonlitKnight> Not a problem. I've done worse after a long analysis and did use Fritz 8 to find the move 16. a4!?
Jan-12-04  Dick Brain: Hammer didn't live up to his name similar to how Mr. Pulvermacher played against Capablanca. It would have been twice as bad if he game himself the name such as in John "The Hammer" Ludwig. If you do that you better be GOOD.
Jan-12-04
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  technical draw: I think all chess players should have nicknames, just like wrestlers. Here are a few suggestions:

"Vicious" Vishy Anand

Vlad "Cram-it" Kramnik

Alex "The Ax" Shirov

Judit "Pistol" Polgar

Jan-12-04
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  technical draw: I forgot Jan "the man" Timman.
Jan-12-04
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  tamar: <technical draw I think all chess players should have nicknames> Good idea...Garry is always "The Boss" or "The Beast from Baku". I nominate
Jan Timman "The Tin Man"
Alexey Shirov "The Sheriff"
Alexander Morozevitch "Big Mo"
Evgeny Bareev "Braveheart"
Zhang Zhong "King Kong"
Jan-31-04  jaime gallegos: 13th years old ! amazing !
Jan-31-04  Bitzovich: How is Jose Raoul "cap-it" Capablanca
Alexander Alekhine = "Ale-alex"
Ruslan Ponomariov is definitely "Patzeriov" (thats been said a lot of times before ;) Veselin Topalov = "Topple 'em"
Peter Svidler = "Peter Swindler"
Apr-30-04  mandar: cool man magnus is more than Karjakin
Oct-11-04  Kaspablanca: Carlsen hammered Hammer here.
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