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| Qian: this is checkmate... isnt it? |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| Spitecheck: Yep it definitely is |
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| kevin86: The pinned knight is the final touch. It is checkmate |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| music man: Why is checkmate sometimes denoted with (say) a Qh8+ instead of a Qh8# ? |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| music man: if 23...Qxf6 then 24. Rxf6+ Nxf6 25. Qf7# (,Yo creo.) |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| thesonicvision: technically, "++" is equivalent to "#",
and "+" is only check. |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| Halfpricemidge: This is a cool one. |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| youngplayer11: i saw Ne5 but dxN i thoght white would play 22.d6 qd7 23.Qh7Kf8 24.Rxf6+ leads to mate.its not the Quickest mate but its mate. Right? |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| Replic: Yes youngplayer, it is a workable mate. The only way out is a queen sacrifice on black, and he'll be open for some pretty heavy attack afterwards. |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| Spitecheck: I had that impression of "++" meaning checkmate as well, but I've also seen it used to denote double check. Spitecheck |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| Eggman: Chessgames.com, the score contains a slight error: 24.Qh8+ should instead be 24.Qh8# |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| Marnoff Mirlony: Spitecheck, "++" does mean Checkmate... at least in Canada. I've seen U.S. Annotation sheets that declare it double check, however. |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| jaime gallegos: another good game is Gerardo Barbero vs Rueetschi Urs, 1987, see what happens after 23... Qd6 ( nice combination!!! ) |
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| talchess2003: <music man: if 23...Qxf6 then 24. Rxf6+ Nxf6 25. Qf7# (,Yo creo.) > More concise is 23... Qxf6 24. Qf7+ |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| MoonlitKnight: What's more concise about it? Both are forced mates in the 25th move. Perhaps you mean more beautiful? |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| trguitar: I'm not sure 21. Ne5 is the best move in view of 22... hxg5. 22...dxe5?? is a major error. I think I would have opted for 21. Qh7+. |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| Eggman: 21...hxg5 22. g6+  h8 (22...f8 leads to mate: 23. xf6+  xf6 24.xf6+ xf6 25.xf6+ g8 26.f7+ h8 27.g6#) 23.f7+ xf7 24.xf7 and White emerges with a + vs ++ , where Black's abysmal development should be decisive, e.g. 24...d7 25.xf6 is devastating. |
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| Dec-14-03 |
| dlanoj: what if black plays 20. ... f5 instead of Kg7.What is white's next forceful continuation? |
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| technical draw: 21.Nh4+ |
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| talchess2003: "concise" = straightforward |
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| Dec-24-08 |
| WhiteRook48: amazing Timman. But then again he's a GM. sacrifices. Probably a bunch.
First bishop sac, then knight sac, argh...
CHECKMATE!! |
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