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| Dec-13-09 | | WhiteRook48: absolutely ferocious |
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| Feb-22-10 | | Chess Addict: This game is brilliant!! |
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Feb-22-10
 | | Once: 8. Bb1?
14. Kf1?
This is either chess brilliance of the highest order, or an over-ambitious attacking plan which luckily won in 1917 when defensive knowledge was not as good as it is today. Can white really jettison so much material and force a win? And having played through the game several times, I still can't quite make my mind up... |
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Feb-22-10
 | | Garech: Okay, it's a nice win. Everyone loves a good old brutal attack. There is something a bit neanderthal and uncivilised about it though compared to, say, one of Karpov's positional masterpieces. |
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| Feb-22-10 | | Calculoso: A very entertaining game to watch! |
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| Feb-22-10 | | lzromeu: What a hell is 41...bg4? After then white could do a serie of forks and win |
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| Feb-22-10 | | dr.carreras: it s a pity that such a deep player as breyer died so young(at 27 years of age)...this 14.Kf1!! is so brilliant, at a point one could immediately think of 14.Qf3 or Qg4 Ä Qh. |
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Feb-22-10
 | | RandomVisitor: Computer analysis suggests that 14...Re8 (and then perhaps 15...Bf8) or 15...Qe8 are difficult moves for white to effectively counter and might lead to a black advantage. |
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Feb-22-10
 | | kevin86: A wild one! After all of the sacs,white emerges material AHEAD. |
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Feb-22-10
| | RandomVisitor: After 11...b4 black might be able to hold off the attack: FEN: 
click for larger view FireBird_10_x64:<25-ply> <-0.95 12.e5> bxc3 13.exf6 Bb4 14.0-0 cxb2 15.Bxb2 g6 16.Nf3 Ba6 17.Rf2 Nd7 18.h5 Nxf6 19.hxg6 c3 20.Bc1 Ng4 21.Qb3 Qd6 22.a3 Ba5 23.Qa4 Bb6 24.Qxa6 Nxf2 25.Kxf2 c2 26.Qd3 cxb1Q 27.Rxb1 c5 -1.09 12.Na4 e5 13.fxe5 Bg4 14.Nf3 Nh5 15.0-0 Bxh4 16.Qc2 Bxf3 17.Rxf3 Qxd4+ 18.Be3 Qxe5 19.Qxc4 Be7 20.Bd4 Qe6 21.Qxe6 fxe6 22.Rxf8+ Kxf8 23.Nc5 Nf4 24.Be3 Bf6 25.Bc2 Bd4 26.Kf2 Bxe3+ |
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| Feb-22-10 | | GMMandetowitch: Hey guys,I don't quite understand anything about this game.Ok,the move Bb1 altough not natural still has some logic in it,makes sense that Bxc4 helps black to get rid of the bad bishop,and Bb1 also creates the c2 square for a battery with the queen.But after that,Kf1 doesn't make any sense to me.I mean,what is the difference of playing Qg4 and meeting Kg7 with the same idea?what is the point of Kf1?And even after that its a joke that white tries to checkmate when the most logical thing to do is to conform himself with a perpetual after such an over optimistic attempt for an attack?I don't went deep with the analysis,but the game doesn't appears to be precise at any moment,it seems black had so many good options for a defense ... |
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Feb-22-10
| | RandomVisitor: After 15...Qe8 white has no effective way to continue:
click for larger view FireBird_10_x64: <20-ply> -1.43 16.a4 b4 17.cxb4 Kg7 18.Ra3 Bxb4 19.Rah3 Rg8 20.Be4 a5 21.Kg1 c3 22.Qb3 Ra6 23.Rh7+ Kf8 24.Qc2 Rb6 25.Be3 Nd7 26.Bf2 -1.95 16.g4 Kg7 17.f5 exf5 18.gxf5 Bxf5 19.Bxf5 gxf5 20.Qf3 Rh8 21.Rh6 Nd7 22.Qxf5 Nf8 23.a4 b4 24.cxb4 Ng6 25.Be3 Qc8 26.Qf3 Qd7 27.Rc1 Qd5 28.Qe2 -2.00 16.Rh6 Kg7 17.Be4 Rh8 18.Bd2 Bb7 19.Ke2 Rxh6 20.gxh6+ Kh7 21.g4 Nd7 22.f5 Nb6 23.Qc2 Qg8 24.fxg6+ -2.10 16.Be4 Kg7 17.Kf2 Rh8 18.Rh6 Rxh6 19.gxh6+ Kh7 20.Qf3 Qf8 21.Bd2 b4 22.Rh1 a5 23.Bc2 Qd8 24.g4 Kh8 25.Kg3 Bb7 -2.12 16.Kf2 Kg7 17.Be4 Rh8 18.Rh6 Rxh6 19.gxh6+ Kh7 20.Qf3 Qf8 21.Bd2 b4 22.Rh1 a5 23.Bc2 Qd8 24.g4 Kh8 25.Kg3 Bb7 |
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Feb-22-10
 | | David2009: Reti in his notes on Breyer vs J Esser, 1917 seems dazzled by Breyer's play. Crafty defending as Black is less impressed: 
click for larger view (Breyer-Esser 1917, 33?)
Black has to be winning this position. Crafty defends against 33.Ke2 with Bh4 34. Rh1 Kg7 and White is busted. On-line link:
http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... Draw this position as White if you can. |
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| Feb-22-10 | | WhiteRook48: this has been GOTD before too |
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Feb-22-10
 | | Gypsy: <David2009: Reti in his notes on Breyer vs J Esser, 1917 seems dazzled by Breyer's play. Crafty defending as Black is less impressed: click for larger view
(Breyer-Esser 1917, 33?) Black has to be winning this position. ...> ---
Well, Reti correctly gives <27.Bf4+...> as the right way to finish off the game: Cf, <...After 26...Kh7 27 Bf4+ Kg7 28 Qh6+ Kg8! 29 Qg6+ Kh8 30 Ke2 Bh4 31 Rh1 together with Bg5 wins. ...> ---
Reti published his notes to the game in his "New Ideas in Chess" and the section on Breyer was altered some when Breyer passed on during the printing of the book: < ... Chess world has lost a first-class master. More importantly, chess world has lost a pioneer who, because of his profound, standing-rules overwriting research acted as a reforming catalyst. New Steinitz was too soon ripped out from our midst.> ---
Not only Reti, but also Tarkakower, Romanovsky, Suetin, and a good number of others had been dazzled by the imaginative ideas introduced in the game. Objectively, even the famous <14.Kf1!?> was likely not the strongest. Dvoretsky (Depth of an Idea, Shachmatno-Shasheskoie Obozrenie, 1981) concluded that, objectively, the more pedestrian <14.Bd2!> was probably stronger: After the 14.Bd2, Dvoretsky has claimed a win in all variations; while he thought to have found a defense for Black after the 14.Kf1. However, GM Bilek (Breyer's Brilliancy, British Chess Magazine, 1987, no 8) in turn presented a bust to Dvoretsky's bust, and showed a winning continuation in the suspect variation after the <14.Kf1!?>... |
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| Feb-22-10 | | Starf1re: I'm sorry, I see there are a lot of pages of kibitzing, has anyone else pointed out the forced mate in 2 that Esser overlooked with 27) e6? |
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Feb-22-10
| | RandomVisitor: <Starf1re>There is a win with 27.e6 but it is not a mate in 2 however... Black seems to hold on with the long line <14...Qe8> 15.Ne4 Nd7 16.Qg4 Kg7 17.f5 exf5 18.Nf6 N5xf6 [18...N7xf6 transposes] 19.gxf6+ Nxf6 20.Bh6+ Kg8 21.exf6 Bxf6 22.Bg5 Bxg5 23.Qxg5 f6 24.Qh6 Qd7 25.Qxg6+ Qg7 and it seems that white runs out of gas with a tiny advantage for black. |
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Feb-23-10
| | David2009: <Gypsy [snip] Reti published his notes to the game in his "New Ideas in Chess"....> Very well informed comments, thanks. I hadn't seen this game before and <Chessgames.com> has given a lot of enjoyment by making it Game of the Day. It certainly got me thinking. <Utopian2020: Instead of 29. Qh6+, white should have played 29. Bf6+ forcing 29...Bxf6 30. exf6 Qg8 31. Qh5+ Qh7 32. Qe8+ Qg8 33. f7 Qxe8 fxe8=Q+> This is a very nice winning line and a fitting climax to Breyer's fine bottling-up sacrifice 17 Rh7+!! <Utopian2020: It appears to be a comedy of errors>. Yes. Even as late as move 41, 
click for larger view Black (to play) can improve his defence. 41...Bg4 blunders away a Bishop for starters. After 41...Rb8
White has a lot of work to win the position (if the win exists at all). I set the position up on Crafty online:
http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t...
You are White: is there a win? Against Crafty, 42.Qxc6 Kg7 43.d5 Bb7 44.Qe6 Bc8 45.Qc6 gives a draw by repetition, but I haven't found more and lose if I overpress. Good luck and enjoy! |
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| Nov-10-10 | | Tigranny: Brilliant play by Breyer. |
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| Jan-11-11 | | meppi: According to Fritz Crafty and all the robot grandmasters 14. Kf1 is not the strongest move, and as others have shown black can create many variations leading to an advantage. However, over the board 14. Kf1 has to be the strongest move there is. How many players would move their king like that only one turn after a piece sacrafice. It's a psychological brilliancy, 2 exclams IMO!! |
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Jan-11-11
 | | sevenseaman: Loads of hubris! Gyula Breyer seems to say, "I'll blow my own trumpet", and he does, quite convincingly. |
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| Jun-22-11 | | DanielBryant: If by hubris you refer to the moves, then fair enough, but if you're referring to the notes, they were by Reti, not Breyer. I know the comments above generally regard 14.Kf1 as unsound, but can somebody explain the point of the move to me nonetheless? |
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| Nov-18-11 | | Knuckle Sandwich: The psychological effect of Kf1!! just adds to its brilliance, especially if Breyer did indeed touch his queen's rook to add to its obscurity. This is what William Harston writes about Breyer's play in his book Teach Yourself Better Chess: "Gulya Breyer, playing White in this position [diagram of the position after 7.... dc ] against Esser in Budapest 1917, did indeed find something else to think about. he played 8. Bb1!? maintaining his control of e4 and planning a quick advance of the e-pawn... But wht aout that  f1 move? What was the point of it? Just look at the position after 22. g6. With the king still on e1, Black could have played 22...  h4+ followed by  e7 . the idea therefore is completely logical - cut out the check to make the combination playable - but the notion that such a move might actually work is something totally original. This may be the only game in history in which a player has moved his king while still in the opening, to eliminate the possibility of a check in a variation nine moves later." |
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| Dec-18-11 | | Helios727: This is weird. In my book "Dynamic Chess" by R.N. Coles, this same game has black variate on move 18 and white wins in 32 moves instead of 47. The final position is:
click for larger viewWith the note that black resigned because there is no defense against 33. Bg5. |
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| Dec-18-11 | | Penguincw:   vs. seems like an advantage but after winning the minor pieces, white has the upperhand. |
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