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Emil Joseph Diemer vs Robert Sutterer
Baden-Baden (1949)
Blackmar-Diemer Gambit: Ryder Gambit (D00)  ·  1-0
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Apr-18-16  leRevenant: Interesting observation, <newzild>... The game would have lasted much longer, that's for sure.
Apr-18-16  newzild: <leRevenant>

Yes, and apart from having a "fortress", Black can also push his e-pawn. This would force White to commit his queen or king to blockading it, leaving him with no way to mate black.

This is the kind of drawing plan that humans can see easily, but which computers can't.

Apr-18-16  alphee: Yes, of course, nice sac.
Apr-18-16
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  morfishine: <42.Qb4+> cool
Apr-18-16
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  thegoodanarchist: A good Easter pun (or Christmas pun) for this game is

Re.: Diemer

Apr-18-16  dufferps: At move 40, black could have continued to move his Bishop. What could white have done about it?
Apr-18-16
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  whiteshark: Luft, Luft,

my ♔dom 4 Luft

Apr-18-16  The Kings Domain: Interesting opening by white, went straight for the jugular. Such an attack wouldn't have worked against a Capablanca or a Karpov, but it resulted in a fast-paced and good game nonetheless.
Apr-18-16  Olsonist: cb or not cb.
Apr-18-16
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  gawain: Such a nifty mate it's hard to believe this is a real game. Never seen anything quite like this one.
Apr-18-16
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  OhioChessFan: <tga: A good Easter pun (or Christmas pun) for this game is Re.: Diemer >

E J Diemer vs F Trommsdorf, 1973

Apr-18-16
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  Marmot PFL: < Interesting opening by white, went straight for the jugular. Such an attack wouldn't have worked against a Capablanca or a Karpov, but it resulted in a fast-paced and good game nonetheless.>

Diemer was a very good attacker, but black didn't defend so well. Good defense is hard so these gambits often work against even stronger amateurs (if you are a natural gambit player, which I am not. I get a little nervous about being behind in material. Some teachers advise playing gambits to improve your tactics, just not in important games.)

Apr-18-16
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  kevin86: Due to black's last suicide move, we have mate in two started by the queen sac at b4
Apr-18-16  YetAnotherAmateur: Hooray for Queen Sac Monday! 42. Qb4+ Bxb4 43. cxb4# leave black in a rather awkward spot.
Apr-18-16
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  TheFocus: A blind man could have gotten this one. Nice Queen sac all the same.
Apr-18-16  poachedeggs: What was the flawed rationale for 40 Ka5...??
Apr-18-16
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Apr-18-16
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Apr-18-16  Diademas: My thoughts exactly chrisowen.
Apr-18-16  Checker2: <Diademas> "Exactly?" Wow, what are the odds? My immediate observation at 42. ? was that it could not possibly be the usual queen sac solution as that was his only piece. Unless there were some recapture square from which a pawn could give check. . .
Apr-18-16
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  lost in space: <<Diademas:> My thoughts exactly chrisowen.>

Exactly. I have no glue what he said in which language, but you are so right.

Apr-18-16
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  Longview: I agree with <gawain>. I saw it but it took a second to realize that the White King had all well in hand!
Apr-18-16  psionl0: My favourite kind of victory - delivering mate with a pawn.
Apr-18-16
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  Bubo bubo: The straightforward ♕-sac-Monday is back again! 42.Qb4+ Bxb4 43.cxb4#
Apr-18-16  CHESSTTCAMPS: White needs a positional queen sac to reconnect the split pawns.
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