chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

There is a clue unsolved right now on the Holiday Contest Clues Page!   [Official Contest Rules]
Please see this announcement for some updates.
(If you register a free account you won't see all these ads!)
John Cochrane vs Howard Staunton
London m2 (1842)
Sicilian Defense: Bowdler Attack (B20)  ·  0-1
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 92 more Cochrane/Staunton games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: The tournament is found above the game. For the newest chess events, this information may be a link which takes you to the tournament page which includes other games, a crosstable, discussion, etc.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Jan-06-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  Honza Cervenka: 7...g5 is a clever trap, but 7...Nxg2+ 8.Kd1 (8.Kf1 d5 9.exd6 e.p. f5 10.Qe2 Nf4 etc.) 8...d5 9.exd6 e.p. f5 10.Qe2 Nf4 11.Qe3 Bxd6 etc. would have been objectively better. After 8.0-0 f5 9.Qe3 white seems to be over the worst. Of course, 8.g3?? loses the Queen.
Jan-06-04  Nova1990: Welcome back, Honza! Since you’ve been gone, one of your games has been the puzzle of the day: Jan Cervenka vs NN, 2002 Also, there are some questions on your page: Jan Cervenka
Oct-16-04  Knight13: Bringing the Queen out too early is a mistake. 10. Qe3 Ng2+ 1-0.
Oct-16-04  Spassky69: 10 bucks says Stanton would be rated 1450 if he came to the future.
Oct-16-04  clocked: <Spassky69> Probably so; however, Staunton certainly would not.
Oct-09-07  nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.25.

Cochrane 3 mistakes:
5.Nc3 -0.41 (5.c3 -0.14)
7.Qe4 -0.77 (7.Qf1 -0.42)
8.g3 -2.38 (8.Bb5 -0.03)

Staunton 1 mistake:
7...g5 -0.03 (7...Nxg2+ -0.77)

Oct-11-07  nimh: Correction, new threshold 0.33.

Cochrane 2 mistakes:
7.Qe4 -0.77 (7.Qf1 -0.42)
8.g3 -2.38 (8.Bb5 -0.03)

Staunton 1 mistake:
7...g5 -0.03 (7...Nxg2+ -0.77

Dec-07-08  newzild: Good Tuesday or Wednesday puzzle here: Move 8, black to play.

Dec-24-08  zzzzzzzzzzzz: litte john takes a fall
Dec-04-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Queen trap in the middle of the board in NINE moves!
Jul-05-14  Rickyroller5: If you're playing a Sicilian Defense, are you the black or white pieces?

Forgive my ignorance.

Jul-05-14  Shams: <Rickyroller5> This is one of those questions where the answer is simple but the way players describe their games confuses the issue. Technically all defenses are played by the Black pieces, since it is White who opens hostilities and the second player who responds. (Although particularly tame systems for White are sometimes derisively, and jokingly, referred to as "defenses", e.g. the "Colle Defense". ) So it is always Black who *plays* the Sicilian Defense, in the sense that it is he who ultimately steers the game in that direction. White invites many defenses when he opens 1.e4, among them the very popular Sicilian; when Black replies 1...c5 he officially stamps the game a "Sicilian Defense".

But at the risk of stating the obvious: even if Black chooses to make the game a Sicilian Defense, both players end up *playing* the game. Thus it's perfectly normal to hear things like "I played a sharp Sicilian" or "so-and-so had some great games in the French [Defense]", where in both cases the speaker might well be referring to the player of the *White* pieces. (A very common follow-up question to these statements is "with White or Black?")

Sometimes openings are described by the choices White finally makes (King's Gambit, Torre Attack, Spanish, Italian etc) and sometimes by the choices Black finally makes (Benko Gambit, King's Indian Defense, French Defense, Grunfeld etc). Over time, this has proved the most convenient way to talk about the opening phase of chess. Everyone understands implicitly which player has final say in "choosing" each particular opening.

I hope this has not further confused you.

Jul-06-14  Rickyroller5: <Shams> No, no on the contrary, it has clarified it for me. Thank you for your reply. I thought there was a "Sicilian" AND a "Sicilian Defense." In other words, if one played a Sicilian, then the other player could counter with a Sicilian Defense. lol I get the picture now. 1.e4 c5, IS the Sicilian Defense. Correct?

Then from there, of course are all the variations.

I also found out that "Defense" can be spelled; defense or defence. But 'defense' is the preferred American spelling. At least according to Wikipedia.

Jul-06-14  Shams: <Ricky> <I get the picture now. 1.e4 c5, IS the Sicilian Defense. Correct?> Yes.
Jul-06-14  RookFile: By the way, is this one of those games where black moved first? :)
Aug-19-14  yureesystem: What a masterpiece, well done, Staunton!!!
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.


NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
SICILIAN'S-DEFENCE
by saveyougod
zumakal blunders archivadas7
by zumakal
Sicilian Opening Traps for Black
by isolatedpawn
Brutal Attacking Chess
by Incremental
Game collection: 6
by gr2ca
Sicilian Defense: Bowlder Attack. 2....e6
from MKD's Sicilian Bowlder Attack by MKD
1 Compiled by ph2ca
by fredthebear
Trapped Queen
from Accidents in the opening by Honza Cervenka
Sicilian Bowlder Attack (B20) 0-1 Qe4 has no escape square
from Some S-upermen of Yesteryear by fredthebear
The trap of the collection...
from Collections in Idleness 4 by kishchess
Part 3 of BEST GAMES EVER
by dull2vivid
Brutal Attacking Chess
by Timothy Glenn Forney
The trap of the collection...
from Collections in Idleness 4 by Trigonometrist
Sicilian Defense: Bowlder Attack
from The Sicilian Defense by Ray From Little Rhody by RayDelColle
Sicilian Bowlder Attack (B20) 0-1 Qe4 has no escape square
from Sloppy Sleepy's Slippery Sloap is Super Slick by Jaredfchess


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC