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Peter Svidler vs Evgeny Bareev
Wijk an Zee Corus Chess 2004  ·  French Defense: Rubinstein Variation. Blackburne Defense (C10)  ·  1-0


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Jan-13-04
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  tamar: In Bareev's defence, Svidler is moving into Big Dog Country with his top five FIDE rating.
Jan-14-04
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  AdrianP: 14. Nc6! was known to theory, giving a significant edge to W after 14... O-O (no games played, but appears in commentary). Bareev must have seen this position before when he played 14...e5 (a supposed improvement). V. embarrassing when 16. f4! and 17. Bxb7! appear on the board...
Jan-14-04   Lawrence: Is Black's position "desperate" after 16.....0-0?
Jan-14-04   Hidden Skillz: pink panther i really dunno whats ur problem u be dissin everybody sup!!?? perhaps u got a screw loose??
Jan-14-04   PinkPanther: <In Bareev's defence, Svidler is moving into Big Dog Country with his top five FIDE rating.> "Big Dog Country" or not, that's still no excuse for Bareev to lose in 17 moves.

<pink panther i really dunno whats ur problem u be dissin everybody sup!!?? perhaps u got a screw loose??> Thanks alot for your commentary, second coming of Toobs. I don't diss everybody, but when a SuperGM loses in 17 moves, I feel the need to dish out some ribbing.

Jan-14-04   Hidden Skillz: u dun have to thank me..i have to admit he aint the best but he is up there for a reason..another thing is why he lost so quickly..u can pick any gm dat has a loss very early it happens..in his situation its a bit a lot but what can u do..
Jan-14-04   Dibser: After 16...0-0 maybe 17.fxe5 Qxe5 18.Rxf7?
Jan-14-04   Bears092: This is the same line I play as black, and I either play the b6, Bb7 manuever (after the bishop exchange, of course), or castle before hitting back with c5.

Then again, if white starts the wing attack, c5 is just about neccesary

Jan-16-04
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  Calli: <Dibser> I think he didn't like 16...0-0 17.f5 with a really dead bishop and the threat of f6.
Apr-16-04   hongisto24: think Svidler planned this on a comp?
Apr-23-04   Bobsterman3000: Isn't 11...Qxf6 a blunder?

I am thinking that Bareev should have recaptured with the pawn instead, due to his weak back rank and king still in the center.

Apr-23-04
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  acirce: Intuitively 11...gxf6 seems sounder indeed. Maybe followed by ...f5 if there isn't some vicious tactics for White in some lines there.

The decisive mistake was of course 16...exf4??

Apr-23-04   Bears092: I'm a french player, and this is one of the lines I use. Taking the white knight on e4 is usually a bad idea since that gives whites bishop the power of the long diagonal. If black can assert his there, he should have at least equality...
May-21-05   schnarre: I concur with Pink Panther's assertion that Bareev needs to quit playing the Rubenstein Variation, & stay with the Caro-Kann instead of the french!
Dec-19-05
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  netlava: The French is good but maybe not for Bareev.
Dec-28-05   CloudDragon: Bareev is fine he made a mistake 2700 more time than many indeed!
Dec-28-05   syracrophy: There's no good defense against 18.Rfe1 and 18.Bxa8, and the black queen has to guard 18.Qd8++. Black's completely lost! 1-0
Dec-28-05   yogi1986: hmm bareev doesn't look so overrated in the 2005 russian superfinal with a win over kramnik and a crushing revenge over svidler.
Jan-13-06   schnarre: <syracrophy> <Black's completely lost!>

Ditto!

Aug-25-06
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  LIFE Master AJ: (at CC) We are going over some of the games in the book, "Judgement and Planning in Chess," by GM Niel McDonald. This is one of the games that he chooses to shine the spotlight on.
Nov-21-07   Whitehat1963: Okay, call me an idiot, but I don't see the finish. Black's at a disadvantage, but why can't he play 17...Rb7 18. Re1 Be6? I'm missing something obvious, what is it?
Nov-21-07   Jim Bartle: Um, I think 17...Rb7 would be illegal?
Nov-21-07   Whitehat1963: Whoops I meant 17...Rb8, of course!
Nov-21-07   Jim Bartle: Then 18. Bxc8?
Nov-21-07   Whitehat1963: Yeah, obvious, like I said. If 17...Rb6, then 18. Bxc8 and black has to castle rather than recover the bishop. Thanks, <Jim B>.
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