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Peter Svidler vs Evgeny Ilgizovich Bareev
"Unbareevable" (game of the day Apr-12-2015)
Corus Group A (2004), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 3, Jan-13
French Defense: Rubinstein Variation. Blackburne Defense (C10)  ·  1-0


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Jan-13-04  PinkPanther: This isn't the first miniature Bareev has suffered with the French Defense, I can think of at least a few others. I wonder when he's gonna learn his lesson and stop playing the Rubinstein Variation.
Jan-13-04  PinkPanther:

Look convincing enough to you guys?

Jan-13-04  TheTurk: and bareev is left in a sad state of affairs.
Jan-13-04  technical draw: <PinkPanther> Truly amazing!
Jan-13-04  PinkPanther: Now you compare his French results against his Caro-Kann results and you see that he has never lost with the Caro-Kann in under 25 moves....which leads me to ask why he doesn't just stick with the Caro-Kann which has brought him considerably more success and less emarrassments....maybe Bareev has a screw loose somewhere.
Jan-13-04  technical draw: <Pinkpanther> I'm thinking of switching from the French to the Caro-Kann myself. Yesterday I played my first on-line game and won with the Caro-kann. Could be the French is over-analysed.
Jan-13-04  Benjamin Lau: Bareev opened up the center without castling.
Jan-13-04  PinkPanther: <Bareev opened up the center without castling.>

I have a theory of my own, Bareev is the most overrated SuperGM in the world.

Jan-13-04  Benjamin Lau: You're lucky Bareev has like 0 fans. ;-)
Jan-13-04  PinkPanther: <You're lucky Bareev has like 0 fans. ;-)>

With games like this it's no wonder why, lol.

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  tamar: In Bareev's defence, Svidler is moving into Big Dog Country with his top five FIDE rating.
Jan-14-04  AdrianP: 14. Nc6! was known to theory, giving a significant edge to W after 14... O-O (no games played, but appears in commentary). Bareev must have seen this position before when he played 14...e5 (a supposed improvement). V. embarrassing when 16. f4! and 17. Bxb7! appear on the board...
Jan-14-04  Lawrence: Is Black's position "desperate" after 16.....0-0?
Jan-14-04  Hidden Skillz: pink panther i really dunno whats ur problem u be dissin everybody sup!!?? perhaps u got a screw loose??
Jan-14-04  PinkPanther: <In Bareev's defence, Svidler is moving into Big Dog Country with his top five FIDE rating.> "Big Dog Country" or not, that's still no excuse for Bareev to lose in 17 moves.

<pink panther i really dunno whats ur problem u be dissin everybody sup!!?? perhaps u got a screw loose??> Thanks alot for your commentary, second coming of Toobs. I don't diss everybody, but when a SuperGM loses in 17 moves, I feel the need to dish out some ribbing.

Jan-14-04  Hidden Skillz: u dun have to thank me..i have to admit he aint the best but he is up there for a reason..another thing is why he lost so quickly..u can pick any gm dat has a loss very early it his situation its a bit a lot but what can u do..
Jan-14-04  Dibser: After 16...0-0 maybe 17.fxe5 Qxe5 18.Rxf7?
Jan-14-04  Bears092: This is the same line I play as black, and I either play the b6, Bb7 manuever (after the bishop exchange, of course), or castle before hitting back with c5.

Then again, if white starts the wing attack, c5 is just about neccesary

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  Calli: <Dibser> I think he didn't like 16...0-0 17.f5 with a really dead bishop and the threat of f6.
Apr-16-04  hongisto24: think Svidler planned this on a comp?
Apr-23-04  Bobsterman3000: Isn't 11...Qxf6 a blunder?

I am thinking that Bareev should have recaptured with the pawn instead, due to his weak back rank and king still in the center.

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  acirce: Intuitively 11...gxf6 seems sounder indeed. Maybe followed by ...f5 if there isn't some vicious tactics for White in some lines there.

The decisive mistake was of course 16...exf4??

Apr-23-04  Bears092: I'm a french player, and this is one of the lines I use. Taking the white knight on e4 is usually a bad idea since that gives whites bishop the power of the long diagonal. If black can assert his there, he should have at least equality...
May-21-05  schnarre: I concur with Pink Panther's assertion that Bareev needs to quit playing the Rubenstein Variation, & stay with the Caro-Kann instead of the french!
Dec-19-05  netlava: The French is good but maybe not for Bareev.
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