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Emanuel Lasker vs Edward Lasker
New York (1924)  ·  Spanish Game: Morphy Defense. Chigorin Defense Panov System (C99)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Mar-16-13
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  Phony Benoni: <Abdel Irada> Edward Lasker devotes thirty pages to this game in his book <Chess For Fun and Chess For Blood>. Fortunately, it's not all hard analysis; there is plenty of narrative included. Of White's chances to trade queens, he writes:

<"After winning knight and bishop for his rook, White has by no means an easy ending. In fact, it is doubtful whether this ending can be won at all. In view of the weak a-pawn White must even be careful not to exchange queens because the rooi can shift his attack quickly from one wing to the other while the knights cannot follow as rapidly.">

I do love this game, in large part because of its length. In games going over 100 moves, I'd put it near the top along with Bronstein vs Panno, 1973.

Mar-21-13
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  FSR: Surprise Ending.
Jun-06-13  estrick: Edward Lasker points out in his book that Emanuel L. missed an easy win on move 37.

Instead of 37. Rxc7? The former world champ should have played 37. Ndf2

Black's best response, 37. ...Rd4 doesn't work due to

38. Qe3 Bb6
39. Rc8+ Kf7
40 Nxe4 Rxe4
41. Qxe4 followed by Ng5+

This position, (move 37) is puzzle #276 in Lev Alburt's Chess Training Pocket Book.

Aug-08-13  paramount: Oh My Gosh, I checked the last position with tablebases and its a dead draw.

I never thought before, the rook and a pawn cannot beat a single knight.

What a good game by Emanuel Lasker either he incidentally found the draw position or not.

And it deserves a GOTD!

Aug-08-13
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  paulalbert: This is in my view one of the great games in chess history and surprisingly many young players are not familiar with it at all. I was fortunate to get Edward Lasker to sign my copy of Chess Secrets at a lecture he gave at the Marshall Chess Club when in his 90s, about a year before his death. He lectured on his win over Reti in this same NY 1924 tournament.
Aug-08-13
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  perfidious: This was one terrific fight, and I agree with <vinidvici> that GOTD is no less than this gem deserves, what with all its vicissitudes.

The old master showed the tenacity of a bulldog and the heart of a lion in this epic defence of a difficult position.

Aug-08-13  paramount: <paulalbert> wow u must be pretty old.

<perfidious> I also agree with <vin>. Hope the panel would hear our comments and soon make it the GOTD.

"NEW DRAW ENDGAME POSITION" is the fitting caption.

Aug-09-13
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  Phony Benoni: Since the game goes over 100 moves, maybe "Draw of the Century".
Aug-09-13  SoUnwiseTheKnight B4: Since its also a Spanish game, it could be called 'radly drawn ruy'
Aug-09-13  RookFile: I was playing over a game the other day, and somebody's game was deemed hopeless because he was a pawn down, even though queens were still on the board. Games like this show that in the hands of a great defender, there are still a lot of possibilities left.
Aug-15-13  phryxolydian: 90... Rb8 was 100% winning! (Unlike Shereshevsky says)
Aug-15-13
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  Caissanist: According to Edward Lasker, this endgame (knight draws against rook and pawn) was unknown until Emanuel discovered it during this game.
Sep-12-13  paramount: <Caissanist: According to Edward Lasker, this endgame (knight draws against rook and pawn) was unknown until Emanuel discovered it during this game.>

Yes, yes. thats why this game deserves a GOTD!

Oct-01-13  Chuckles: <phryxolydian: 90... Rb8 was 100% winning! (Unlike Shereshevsky says)>

No, tablebases confirm that 90...Rb8 is a draw. White draws with either 91. f5 or 91. Kc3.

Oct-02-13  paramount: <phryxolydian>
<90... Rb8 was 100% winning! (Unlike Shereshevsky says)>

Too bad, in this sophisticated era, we have the tool named tablebases and whatever black would do at the move 90, just like you said, with the right defend, white could achieve a DRAW. Dont you know we have tablebases? Just massage me in this forum, i will give you a web to assist you, or just type in the google...very easy :)

cheers

Oct-19-13
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  SteinitzLives: This game, though it took forever to play through, and study, proved to be worth the effort from an instructional perspective (Shereshevsky uses it in his famous endgame book, btw). Some GOTD name suggestions:

These Laskers were no baskers;

Pork New York, The King's the Thing;

When a Knight on the Rim is the Creme de la Creme;

Passed Pawns Must be Smooshed;

Ya Can't Keep a Good King Down;

and:

Em and Ed, Rep and Cred.

Oct-19-13
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  offramp: < SteinitzLives:....

These Laskers were no baskers;

Pork New York, The King's the Thing;

When a Knight on the Rim is the Creme de la Creme;

Passed Pawns Must be Smooshed;

Ya Can't Keep a Good King Down ....>

Worst chess poem ever.

Mar-02-14  Everett: I would purchase a book of the most instructive and best 100 draws. Sure this would make it, along with another Lasker game Schlechter vs Lasker, 1910
Mar-02-14
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  perfidious: <Everett> No such collection would be complete without this scrap.
Mar-02-14
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  Phony Benoni: Wolfgang Heidenfeld did complile such a book, translated into English with the imagainative title, <Draw>. However, one of his standards was to exclude games where either player was clearly winning at some point, which eliminated this game.

He did include Schlechter vs Lasker, 1910, and with a sense of awe. At the end, his comment was something like, <"And yet there are people who claim that Karpov and Korchnoi are stronger than Lasker and Schlechter. They must be joking.">

A very interesting book, if you can find it.

Mar-02-14  Everett: Thank you <PH>

Yeah, that Schlecter-Lasker game is ridiculous. Combine that with this game, and we see great play, original play, accurate and imaginative play, by past masters who had no had Steinitz, Morphy and Andersson, but few other shoulders upon which to stand. Makes me think they (especially Lasker and Capablanca) would understand modern chess the second they saw it.

Feb-15-15  mikealando: WOw. Beautiful chess. All out attack and defense.
Feb-15-15  JimNorCal: My local library had the "Draw" book but it never seemed to be on the shelves. Eventually I found it misfiled in the Art section.
Apr-30-15  Howard: Yes, I'm fairly familiar with that Draw! book. The author died before he could finish it, so John Nunn completed the book and had it published.
Apr-30-15
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  offramp: <Howard: Yes, I'm fairly familiar with that Draw! book. The author died before he could finish it, so John Nunn completed the book and had it published.>

So it was Nunn who had it published! Good old Nunn! The book would never have seen the light of day without him! Well done Dr Nunn!

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