| May-24-10 | | Cardinal Fang: No kibitzing for this yet? The combination starting 15. ...Nxe3 is very nice. |
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Mar-16-15
 | | sachistu: This game won 2nd Brilliancy Prize.
In Ceskoslovensky Sach, 1941, p58, White's 15th move is given clearly as Re1. However, in the de Gruyter tournament book (Europa-Schachturnier München 1941) the move given on page 50 is Rc1. Just below is a parenthetical comment (Siehe Bild im Rundenbericht)which I believe translates roughly to "see image (picture)in round report". On p45, the Rook is pictured on c1 so Cesk. Sach version is apparently incorrect. They suggest 15.Nxd5 ed 16.Re1 as better. |
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| Mar-17-15 | | zanzibar: Pretty rare to have photographic evidence in hand.
Edward Winter has a section on the tournament, including some photographs worth seeing - some from ES M 1941, here: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... (CN 3917) |
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| Mar-17-15 | | zanzibar: A photo of the tournament with both Leepin and Mross in it (not playing this game): http://de.chessbase.com/portals/3/f... |
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| Mar-17-15 | | zanzibar: By the way, chessbites gives it as 15.Rc1:
http://www.chessbites.com/Games.asp... |
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Mar-17-15
| | sachistu: Thanks for the photo references <zanzibar>. I mentioned the variance because at least one of the notes in Cesk. Sach would not be possible if the Rook was on c1. Moreover, Re1 seems to make more sense given the weakness on e3. It's not uncommon for a diagram to have a misprint, but all other things being equal, I'd be inclined to believe the tournament book. It looks like the sacrifice works against either move. |
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| Mar-18-15 | | zanzibar: <sachistu> I would think the tournament should be more reliable, but one can never be entirely sure. I had thought there was an actual photograph of the position, but that was my assumption. I now understand it to be a diagram, which just puts the two scores at odds with each other. As you said the sacrifice works against both. It might be interesting to do a full-blown analysis with both. I'd be inclined to think 15.Rc1, only because the c-file is more likely to get opened (yes, a rather simple minded reason). It's funny that the fatal weakness is on c5. Very hard to see at move 15. |
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| Mar-18-15 | | zanzibar: Alekhine has a few comments about these players:
<Of the four youthful players (youthful in terms of both years and international experience), the Croat Rabar appears very interesting. His main defect may be insufficient knowledge of the openings, but that is something he can easily remedy.The representative of the General Government of Poland, Mross, played in original and bold style. His beautiful game against Leepin is characteristic of this. Considerable skill was also shown by the other participants, down to young Leepin, the least experienced player, who “nearly” defeated Richter. The results of the tournament showed clearly that there was no player lacking in true merit.> http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Mar-19-15
| | sachistu: <zanzibar> I was trying to give the literal translation for 'bild' e.g. image or picture, and later I used the word 'pictured' when I was referring to the diagram. Sorry about any confusion. In my opinion, the weakness on e3 (backward and defended only by the King) far outweighs any chance White might get on the c-file. If the move was Rc1, that suggests White did not see the sac coming. And if it was Re1, it was already too late to stop. The limited analysis I've done indicates neither move would have made any difference. Also, it seems the continuations 'play' regardless of which move Rc1 or Re1 was played, so we are still left wondering which score is correct. |
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Nov-03-22
 | | al wazir: I think this game is a few moves short of a win. What happens after 20. Nd5 ?
If 20...exd5+, then 21. Kf2, and the ♙ on d5 blocks the ♖. If 20...Bxd5, then 21. Qc3, and now black can't set up a mating web by playing Qc5+ or Qh4+. If 20...Rxd5 , then 21. Qe4+ Rf5 22. Qc2. Now if 22...Qg5+ then 23. Kf2, and if 22...Qh4 then 23. g3. White has ♗+♘ vs. ♖+♙. Is that so bad? |
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Nov-03-22
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Feeling unusually blind here. after 20.Nd5,Bxd5; 21.Qc3, doesn't Black have B, N & P v. R, a winning material edge? |
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Nov-03-22
 | | beatgiant: <al wazir>
But wouldn't Black play 20. Nd5 Rxd5 21. Qe4+ <f5> 22. Qc2 Qg5+ instead? Then 23. Kf2 Rd2+ wins much more material. |
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Nov-03-22
 | | FSR: Apt pun, given White's king <Leepin> out to e3. |
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| Nov-03-22 | | goodevans: Wow! Where did that come from?
The black N was sat on d5 a while so White had plenty of opportunities to trade it. Bet he wished he had! A wonderful tactical treat from Black and, as <FSR> says, the pun is very apt too. |
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| Nov-03-22 | | goodevans: Having read the first few comments, I've submitted a correction slip to get White's 15th move corrected to <15.Rc1>. <beatgiant>'s analysis of 20.Nd5 is still valid with this change to the game score. |
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| Nov-03-22 | | ChessIsLife159753: Beautiful attack by Black. The key mistakes of White are in my opinion 4.f3?! d5!, not going for 7.Bxf6! Bxf6 8.cxd5.exd5 9.f4= when the bad bishop is traded, and 8.Qb3? which feels horrible. |
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| Nov-03-22 | | goodevans: <<beatgiant>'s analysis of 20.Nd5 is still valid with this change to the game score.> Actually that's not quite right. With the R now covering c5 the White Q no longer has to retreat 22.Qc2. 
click for larger viewShe can go to f4 instead to prevent 22...Qg5+. Either 23.Qd7 or 23.Qd8 then looks good to keep the pressure up (e.g. 22.Qf4 Qd8 23.Kf2 Rd2+ 24.Kg3 Rd4 wins the Q) but admittedly things are a little more complicated with the R on c1 rather than e1. |
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Nov-03-22
 | | scormus: Look before you leep? |
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