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Gioachino Greco vs NN
Miscellaneous Game (1620), ?, rd 75
Queen's Gambit Accepted: Old Variation (D20)  ·  1-0
ANALYSIS [x]

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May-12-06  MagnaPsygnosis: yes <chopin>... That porves my point never to protect the b5 pawn....
May-15-06  FiveMinutesToWapner: All for a pawn. Tsk. It is a bit of an obscure move, however, to see that the rook is dead. Koodos to Greco on that one.
Jun-09-06  MagnaPsygnosis: <fiveminutestowapner> never actually thought of that as such..... good point
Oct-29-06  Archives: I don't get it... why did Black resign here?? He is up a Pawn and he resigns!?!?
Oct-29-06  Open Defence: well doesnt he lose material after Qf3 ? a piece at least I think
Jan-06-07  Ch3ckmate: this trap has proved useful for me.
ive played 3 games, with my opponent falling for it.
Feb-05-07  Archives: Black a pawn up and he resigns??!!

I've seen some terrible resignations, but this is the worse.

Feb-06-07  crptone: yeah. wats wrong w/ u NN, y u being such a sore loser. if you do that again, ima beat u so hard. plus ur name sucks, sux 2 b u.
Feb-06-07  Archives: STBY!
Apr-23-07  Fourpointo: Black doesn't have to lose a rook. He could go 6. ...Bb7 7. Qxb7 Nd7, but he still has terrible position.
Apr-27-07  petrosian horse: Is NN trying to lose? He loses a lot of games really fast.
May-04-07  JMJ565X: i played a game today that followed these same lines after finding out about this trap. the game went 5...Nc3 6. Qxc3 Bd7 7. Qf3 and i won soon after
May-04-07  DMBFan23: <Archives: I don't get it... why did Black resign here?? He is up a Pawn and he resigns!?!?>

nice one

Nov-27-07  zahbaz: You know... This is why I like playing 3. e3 over 3.Nf3 as white. I like to tempt black into hanging on to the gambit pawn.

Against strong players, I may go with 3.Nf3...but 3.e3 is both solid and allows black to make some poor choices.

Feb-18-08  D.Observer: Nice analysis by <DeepBlade>.
Oct-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  amadeus: 3.e3! - a nice move that every begginner should learn (the bad way)
Mar-25-09  WhiteRook48: 4...Bd7 is probably better
Sep-19-09  WhiteRook48: ....b5 is bad
Jul-01-11  SMCB1997: Ahh, I love this trap. It works on almost every game I play. :-)
Jul-01-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: After 3.e3, 3...e5! is usually considered best, and 3...b5 is weak. After 3.e4 (rather than 3.e3), the greedy 3...b5!? is actually possible, e.g. Deep Fritz vs Kramnik, 2006.
Nov-14-11  AnalyzeThis: I catch two guys a week in internet play with this as white.
Jan-20-12  SoundWave: this is a great trap!
Jun-23-12  amr.bin.adnan: 6.♕f3 ♕c7, ♕a8 ♗b7, ♕a7 e6, or ♘c6 is not so terrible for black. it has a little initiative. it's better than resign :)
Mar-21-13  Tigranny: Plenty of times I have been White and my opponent falls for this trap.
May-31-15
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  PawnSac: <WhiteRook48: 4...Bd7 is probably better ..b5 is bad >

yes b5 is bad (opens the h1-a8 diagonal)
but ..Bd7 is only marginally better.

1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e3 b5 4.a4 Bd7 5.axb5 Bxb5 6.b3 and white wins back the gambit pawn with advantage.
And if 6. ..Qd5? 7.Nc3 Qc6 8. d5 Qc5 9. Ba3 Qb6 10. bxc4 or 8. ..Qb6 9.bxc4 and white still has a good edge.

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