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Vladimir Kramnik vs Veselin Topalov
21st Linares (2004)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. English Attack (B90)  ·  1-0
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Feb-26-04  fatbaldguy: I don't think Rubanmar said Topalov played much better than Kramnik, but rather that Topalov played with a lot of fear of Kramnik. And I too am puzzled by his choice of giving up the exchange.
Feb-26-04  zsystriker: 16...Qc8, then 17.Bc7. and black's in whole lotta trouble. Topalov's troubles began when he allowed Qc6.
Feb-26-04  pencuse: Both 16. ... Qc8 and Qb8 would have been answered with 17. Bc7. White threatens to take d6 pawn which leads dangerous variants for black to lose the game. Therefore Topalov might have thought to reduce white's pressure with rook sac.
Feb-26-04
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  tamar: <Kaspablanca, fatbaldguy> 16...Qc8 or 16...Qb8 lose the dP after 17 Bc7 with no compensation. Crystal clear play from Kramnik. Earlier, he may just have been winning after 14 Qc3, but I would have liked to see the play after 14...Rb8
Feb-26-04  zsystriker: <tamar> 14...Rb8 then 15.Qa5 after which black's Q-side pawns fall like ripe apples.
Feb-26-04  fatbaldguy: <Tamar>,<zsystriker>: Thanks, I hadn't realized how powerful Bc7 was.
Feb-26-04
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  tamar: <zsystriker>No time to pick apples! If 15 Qa5 Nbxd5 and the dobermans are barking.
Feb-26-04
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  Honza Cervenka: After 14...Rb8 what about 15.f4? It looks quite promising for white.
Feb-26-04
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  tamar: 14...Rb8 15 f4 Qc8 16 Qc8+ Nc8 was the line I wanted to see. Is white that much better? Black still has hope of organizing pressure on d5, and if white plays 17 fxe5, black's black square bishop becomes better.
Feb-26-04
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  Honza Cervenka: After 14...Rb8 15.f4 Qc8 16.Qxc8+ Nxc8 17.fxe5 dxe5 18.Na5 Ne7 (threatening 19.Nc6 black hardly can ignore) 19.c4 white still looks better.
Feb-26-04
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  tamar: Thanks for the clear strategy <Honza> I missed the power of 18 Na5.
Feb-27-04  lazarus: Topalovs 12...g6 seems to be a novelty
and I think his problems already started with this move. Interesting would have been 12...Qc7
(more dynamic than g6, control of the
c-file, avoiding the Qc3 manoeuvre)
May-01-04  Tigran Petrosian: Beating a top-level GM never looked so easy.
Jun-04-05  Catfriend: Just for those calling Kramnik a patzer and an unworthy champion, naming Topalov as the next one: Kramnik-Topalov +18 -9 = 33.
Jun-06-05  lopium: <Rubanmar>, no creo que Topavol era cansado, pero que ha simplemente perdido. Se puede! Me parece que te gusta mas Topalov que Kramnik.
Jun-06-05  Catfriend: <lopium> Deystivetlno? Seryozno? A, teper vsyo ponyatno:)
Jun-06-05
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  Boomie: 16...Qc8 loses miserably.

16... Qc8 17. Bc7 Ra7 18. Bxd6 Qxc6 19. dxc6 Bxd6 20. Rxd6 Ke7 21. Rxd7+ Nxd7 22. cxd7 Rxd7 23. Bd3

18...Nfd7 is also hopeless. However black may be able to survive after 18...O-O

18... O-O 19. Qb7 Qxb7 20. Nxb7 Rc8 21. Be2 Kf8

Jun-06-05
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  Boomie: 12...g6 is strange. The usual Rc8 is much better. The game might proceed:

12... Rc8 13. g3 Nb6 14. Bh3 Nc4 15. Qe2 Rc7 16. f4 Be7 17. Bd2 Nxd2 18. Qxd2 O-O 19. Na5 exf4 20. gxf4

Sep-09-05  Queens Gambit: A fantastic game.
Oct-22-05  Hesam7: GM Kramnik and GM Illescas, annotate this game: http://www.kramnik.com/eng/games/vi...
Oct-22-05
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  KingG: Great game by Kramnik, but i don't think that 10. ...h5 is a good move. Certainly i don't think it is better than the usual 10. ...Nb6. After all in this variation, black is trying to break through on the Queen side before White does on the King side, so why help him with h5 instead of the constructive Nb6. I know that in the Yugoslav attack in the Dragon black sometimes plays h5, and it's not that easy to break through, but i think that it's a bit misplaced in the Najdorf.
Oct-22-05
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  KingG: Well, perhaps i spoke too soon. I just checked my database and apparently Black scores 75% in this with h5, but still on general principles(although that doesn't seem to mean much these days) i think Nb6 SHOULD be stronger even if Kramnik's novelty doesn't refute this variation.
Oct-22-05  Hesam7: Here is some analysis from Fruit after 19... Bg5:

20. h4 Bf6 21. g4 hxg4 22. fxg4 Rxh4 23. Bd3 Kf8 24. Rxh4 Bxh4 25. Rh1 Kg8 26. a4 Bg5 27. a5 Qc7 28. c3 Be3 29. Rh2 Bg5 (eval: +1.58)

Depth: 18
1191M nodes
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Apr-10-06  DeepBlade: Move 28 is a great one, undermining the Knight and gaining a pawn.
Nov-03-08  dwavechess: 30/37 kramnik moves concur with rybka 3 w32 at 3 minutes per move.
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