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|Nov-16-12|| ||Calli: <sambo> The challenge would be to find the original publication of the game. It's possible that Capa made his 14th move and resigned before moving on. |
In exhibition games, Kevitz beat Lasker, Capablanca and Alekhine (score unavailable).
|Nov-16-12|| ||maxi: In the publication quoted by <Calli> it says that Capa had come down with a bad cold and during the display had asked of all present not smoke. A bad cold can affect one's play quite a lot, I guess.|
|Jan-30-13|| ||keypusher: People who don't believe Capablanca could possibly play this badly should take a look at this non-simul effort.|
Capablanca vs Verlinsky, 1925
|Dec-27-15|| ||TheFocus: From a simultaneous exhibition in Brooklyn, New York on March 7, 1924.
Capablanca scored +25=4-4.
Source is research by Dale Brandreth.
|Sep-07-16|| ||Christoforus Polacco: Black killed the only one defensor of 'd3' square. So next 14.... Nd3 and the bishop on 'b2' is unhappy :)|
|Nov-22-18|| ||bkpov: Simultaneous, blindfolds, rapids and variants should be placed at different place in database|
|Aug-30-19|| ||al wazir: <sambo: I'll add my name to the list of people who don't believe that white is Capablanca.> No, white was *Capablance*.|
|Aug-30-19|| ||al wazir: 14. Kxf1. Now what?
If 14...Ne4, then 15. Nxe4. If 14...Bd3+, then 15. Kg1.
If 14...Nd3, then 15. Qe3. Now if 15...Nxb2 (or 15...O-O, etc.), then 16. Nxf5.
White is two ♙s down, but the real Capa would have played on.
|Aug-30-19|| ||The Kings Domain: The great Capa throwing a game.|
|Aug-30-19|| ||beatgiant: <al wazir>
If nothing else, Black can at least win a third pawn and trade down to a winning endgame with 14. Kxf1 Nd3 15. Qe3 Bg6 16. Ba3 Qxf4+. But, yes the world champion should not resign yet, especially in a simul.
|Aug-30-19|| ||newzild: Capa was right to resign. What's the point in playing on for 30 moves in a completely lost position against a player who is clearly master strength?|
|Aug-30-19|| ||sfm: Where on earth does "Capablance" on the front page, giving no search results, come from?|
Did JR Capablanca play this simul-game as given, with the white pieces?
So far I put my money on "No, he didn't"
JR Capablanca could well have played this game, but with the black pieces. Maybe that is the simple explanation.
|Aug-30-19|| ||faulty: beatgiant> 14. Kxf1 Nd3 15. Q anywhere N*b2
and you are a piece down. Good luck playing on.
|Aug-30-19|| ||faulty: smf>
Calli: It was March 7. For an account of the exhibition, see the Brooklyn Eagle http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%...
Look in column 1.
|Aug-30-19|| ||chancho: The game is included in Rogelio Capparo's book: The Games of Jose Raul Capablanca, in the informal games section (game 407) pg 214. So it must be legit.|
|Aug-30-19|| ||sfm: Thanks for further info. While everybody looks away, I quietly slide my stake to "Yes, he actually did".|
Apart from just giving a pawn away, it is surprising so helpless White is after 9.h3??,Nc5. Could have eluded even JRC in a simul in a weak moment.
|Aug-30-19|| ||mrknightly: See no relation to "b4" in the game. So, what's the deal?|
|Aug-30-19|| ||keypusher: <mrknightly: See no relation to "b4" in the game. So, what's the deal?>|
See White's first move.
|Aug-30-19|| ||keypusher: <faulty: beatgiant> <14. Kxf1 Nd3 15. Q anywhere N*b2
and you are a piece down. Good luck playing on.>|
14.Kxf1 Nd3 15.Qe3 Nxb2 16.Nxf5, although Black is still winning.
|Aug-30-19|| ||mrknightly: <keypusher> Duh?? 4got about the first move. Thanks.|
|Aug-30-19|| ||payan: I think Qf2 is a blunder result of the touch move rule.The simple Qxe3 is an obvious simple better move.|
|Aug-30-19|| ||playground player: Funny! Capablanca tries "the orang-utan" and gets burned.|
|Aug-30-19|| ||spingo: <sambo: ...He played an Orangutan in a simul a few years later (Capablanca vs AG Pedroso, 1927) with better results, so it's possible this really was a learning experience.>|
Disappointing to learn that these gentle primate cousins of ours are no longer afforded the courtesy of a full patronymic epithet.
|Aug-30-19|| ||Granny O Doul: <payan> I don't see how the touch-move rule, even if it were observed in this simul, could explain why 13. Qf2 was played instead of 13. Qxe3. If you meant to suggest that maybe Capa placed his queen on f2 and then released his hand, you may be on to something. I imagine his idea was something like 13...Nc2+ 14. Kd1 Nxa1 15. Qxc5 Qxg3 16. Bb5+, with the possibility of giving check a few more times before resigning.|
|Aug-30-19|| ||catlover: <spingo> LOL! |
Here is what happened when Carlsen had a simul with some gentle primates:
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