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Jules Arnous de Riviere vs Adolf Anderssen
Paris m2 (1860)
Scotch Game: General (C44)  ·  0-1
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Apr-29-04  Elrathia Kingi: Interesting opening... is there a name for this gambit?
Jun-23-04  johnqwoodpusher: I agree. This is kind of like a Vienna gambit for black or a Latvian gambit deferred. How about Anderssen's Gambit...? :-)
Aug-24-05  Jaymthetactician: I like 4.exf5,e4 for white, though it would be impossible to defeat a master with this gambit as black.
Jul-17-08  JonathanJ: after move 16, black seems to be totally destroyed. de riviere must have made some stupid blunders somewhere in the middlegame.
Jul-17-08  paul1959: White missed 22 Ne7+ with an easy win.
Mar-21-11  jbtigerwolf: paul1959, you are spot-on! I just played through it (not that you need to) and Black is gone. I'm surprised he missed that. I don't think anyone could come back from that.

I am having serious misgivings now about the Philidor Counter-gambit. I had hoped it was a viable way to avoid the Ruy, Scotch, etc, but maybe not. More study!

It does look as if 4.Bc4 may have refuted it, as everyone is saying. The move order was weird, but it's the same. At least the study doesn't have too many lines. Oh I hope it's not refuted!

Jul-14-12  sneaky pete: When two strong players overlook something elementary like 22.Ne7+ .. here, you can be sure the gamescore is wrong. That goes for the duplicate (with the move order 2... f5 3.Bc4 Nc6 4.d4 .. and a wrong site and year) De Riviere vs Anderssen, 1862 as well.

The 1996 Pickard edition of Anderssen's games, based on Gottschall's work, gives a different and more likely gamescore after 20.b4 ..


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20... Rf7 21.b5 Nd8 22.Rfe1 Rhf8 23.f3 Rg7 24.Re4 b6 25.a4 Ne6 26.a5 Kb7 27.axb6 axb6 28.Rc4 Rd8 29.Ne4 Nf4 30.Nef6 Rxg2+ 31.Kh1 Rb2 32.Rg1 Nxd5 33.Nxd5 Rd7


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(not 33... Rxd5? 34.Rg7+ ..; now white should have played 34.Ne3 ..) 34.Nf6 e4 35.Re1 Rxh2+ 36.Kg1 Rg7+ 37.Kf1 Rh1+ 38.Ke2 exf3+ 39.Kd2 Rg2+


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To add to the confusion, Pickard gives (as in the duplicate) site London and year 1862 and the 2... f5 3.Bc4 Nc6 4.d4 .. move order. The Oxford Encyclopedia has the site, year and move order as given here, however with 20... Rhg8? (instead of Gottschall's 20... Rf7), based on a publication in La Nouvelle Régence, 1861.

Of course black is clearly lost after the opening. Pickard (Gottschall) gives the improvement 11.Qb5 ..


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Jul-15-12
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  Calli: Original publication is here: http://books.google.com/books?id=jC...

Although my recognition of the French notation is shakey, the score appears to agree with ChessGames. As far as the chess blindness at move 22, "Il est extraordinaire" says Journoud in his notes.

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