| Sep-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: Someone tell me what I'm missing here, please! Isn't it mate for white with 19. Re8#??? The game score has to be wrong! |
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Sep-09-04
 | | Chessical: <Whitehat1963> I don't think so. White is in check, and will be a Q for a R down. |
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| Sep-09-04 | | iron maiden: <Whitehat> Yeah, but White's in check. |
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| Sep-09-04 | | sneaky pete: Uncle pete's "believe it or not":
<Isn't it mate for white after 19.Re8#???> That's exactly what Lajos Steiner thought! |
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| Sep-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: Once again, I'm blind! |
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| Sep-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: It's funny, I saw today's puzzle within a few seconds, but I couldn't see that white was in check. I have a case of intermitent vision. And most of the time it's turned off! |
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Aug-19-06
 | | Chnebelgrind: <Whitehat1963 The game score has to be wrong!> Do you prefer this?J W Te Kolste vs Loman, 1921 |
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| Jan-31-09 | | positionalgenius: wow deja vu. painful; memories. |
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| Jun-22-10 | | WhiteRook48: i wanted 16 Qxf7+ but that fails too |
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Jun-27-24
 | | Teyss: After 16.Qxf2 White was maybe expecting the skewer ...Bg3, to which White would have answered 17.Qxf7+!! Rxf7 18.Re8# as Black's DSB cannot interpose on f8. But Black finds the subtle zwischenzug 16...Bh2+! forcing the WK to go in the firing range of the f8 R (17.Kh1?? Qxf2): 17.Kf1 Bg3 now the skewer works and White continues with his original plan completely forgetting his K is now exposed: 18.Qxf7+?? Rxf7+ with check. It's rare to see a great move change into a terrible one just two plies down the line. According to SF White could have just played 18.Qd2 with a minor advantage (+1.0 at 41 ply) Earlier if 15.hxg4? Qh2+ 16.Kf1 Qh1+ 17.Ke2 Bxg4+ and now: (a) 18.f3 Rae8+ 19.Kf2 Rxe1 with a devastating attack e.g. if 20.Qxe1, Bg3+ (-17.3 at 32 ply) 
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(b) 18.Kd3 (or 18.Kd2 Bf4+ 19.Kd3) Bf5+ 19.Re4 Bxe4+ 20.Kxe4 Rae8+ 21.Kd3 Re1 also winning (-10.7 at 34 ply) 
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| Jun-30-24 | | SeanAzarin: I remember reading about the ending sequence to this game in the classic book "Chess Traps, Pitfalls and Swindles". |
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| Jun-30-24 | | goodevans: Pun and game both a nice departure from the norm. Well done, <Teyss>. <Sep-09-04 Whitehat1963: It's funny, I saw today's puzzle within a few seconds...> So this was a Saturday puzzle two decades ago. I wonder where it started. Maybe at <16...? Black to play> 
click for larger viewIf so then after <16...Bh2+ 17.Kf1 Bg3> as well as seeing the game line you'd also have had to have found something better than <18.Qd2 Bxe1? 19.Qxe1 ±>. Pretty tough. Maybe it even started a move earlier with <15...? Black to play> but I'm not convinced <15...Nxf2> is actually best and White has alternatives to <16.Qxf2> to consider so I'm doubting they started the puzzle here. Either way it was a hard puzzle so I'm not surprized it seems to have gone unsolved. |
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| Jun-30-24 | | sfm: One of the more 'impossible' blunders, as the whole variation, including 18.Qxf7+??,Rxf7+ ∓ is so very well known. At this point nobody should be in time trouble. When your opponent allows for a move that 'otherwise' would allow a trivial mate in two, a Lajos Steiner would look one more time? I must have watched, well, ~50 blitz games with this variation, not a single time did White play 18.QxP+ That blunder, by that player, should be famous, but no luck with googling it or other references to this game. It is certainly a possibility that the score is simply wrong. |
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| Jun-30-24 | | Alan McGowan: The score is correct, as shown by Game 14 on page 39 of the tournament book edited by Kurt Richter. |
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Jun-30-24
| | Teyss: Hi goodevans,
Thanks. Was also wondering about the puzzle since the moves are not forced and the best line is not clearly winning for any side. Maybe 18...Black to play and win?Looking at the opening, 16...Bg3? (instead of 16...Bh2+!) was played twice:
* In S Sery vs Z Vecsey, 1921 White did find the Q sac 17.Qxf7+!!
* In M Jovancic vs R Cukic, 1968 White didn't and the game was eventually drawn. For memo 16...Bh2+! 17.Kf1 Bg3 was played in 7 other games: 6 Black wins, 1 draw. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che...
Incredibly, in this one White also suffered from the same hallucination 18.Qxf7+??: J W te Kolste vs R Loman, 1921 |
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Jul-01-24
 | | Pawn and Two: <Alan McGowan> Would be willing to check another game score question for the Berlin BSG 1928 tournament? What does Richter's tournament book say about Black's 2nd move in the round 6 game between Saemisch and Ahues? Saemisch vs C Ahues, 1928 It seems obvious that Black must have played 2...e6, but we need verification of this. |
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| Jul-01-24 | | Alan McGowan: For <Pawn and Two> The Saemish-Ahues game in the 1928 tournament book shows 2...e7-e5, but this must be a typo. I can't say that I ever came across a game where Ahues played the Budapest Defence! |
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Jul-01-24
| | Pawn and Two: <Alan McGowan> Thank you for checking. I see Black's 2nd move for Saemisch-Ahues Berlin BSG 1928 has now been corrected to 2...e6. |
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