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| chessmoron: 20. f4 (ouch!)...maybe capture the bishop. |
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May-14-06
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: It would appear that Mr. Canal had a sense of humor. 21...Nxd3 forks the Rooks, but if 22.Nxd3,Bxd2, and the Rooks are still forked, but from a different square with a different piece. I haven't seen that before. The symplifying combination starting with ...Rc1 was pretty funny, too. |
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| May-14-06 |
| Hafen Slawkenbergius: Why is 28...exd5 the move which is considered the rook sacrifice? |
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| May-14-06 |
| rya: white had a good game till f4 |
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| May-14-06 |
| itz2000: isn't it a draw after 29 moves? before b4?! |
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| May-14-06 |
| Holden: <itz2000> 33.Kg3 looks better to me (gaining opposition), but I still don't see how to draw. 33.Kg3 h5 34.h4+ (34.h3 h4+ 35.Kf3 Kf5) Kf5 35.Kf3 f6 36.g3 g5 looks winning for black. What's the drawing line? |
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May-14-06
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| dakgootje: im not the best player around when its about endgames, so thats why i ask this, but imagine black had played 36. gxf5, would it be much harder or still even possible to win for black? |
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May-14-06
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| ReikiMaster: <Hafen Slawkenbergius> I partly agree - 26...Rc1 is the move that gives back the exchange. Black must have been confident that his extra pawn wins after all pieces have been traded off. |
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May-14-06
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| drmariogodrob: <dakgootje> There is still a win with 36. gxf5 Ke3 37. f4+ Kf3 38. Kf5 and 39. Ke4. But in most cases it's better to keep pawns connected (and out of their own king's way) and grab the opposition, both of which are accomplished by Kxf5. True in this case, there is still a win, but there mightn't always be. |
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| May-14-06 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: Could someone please explain the pun? Thanks. |
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May-14-06
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| tamar: They don't know about the Erie Canal in the Netherlands? Famous song here in the states:
The Erie Canal
I've got a mule, and her name is Sal.
Fifteen miles on the Erie Canal.
She's a good old worker and a good old pal,
Fifteen miles on the Erie Canal.
We've hauled some barges in our day,
Filled with lumber, coal and hay,
And we know ev'ry inch of the way
From Albany to Buffalo. |
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| May-14-06 |
| Prugno: Esteban Canal, who lived in Italy for most of his life, annotated this game in his book "Strategia di Avamposti", which is an excellent read if you enjoy refined philosophical prose, but not much use for those who are trying to improve their chess :-)
Among the few things I can make out from his notes are: with 20. f4 White falls into a trap (well, that was clear enough from the follow up), so he should have agreed to the exchange of Bishops; also, at the end Kxf5 is the only winning move, because if 36... gxf5? then White can draw with 37. Ke3 f4+ 38. Ke2. |
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| May-14-06 |
| question marks: If it wasn't clear from <tamar>, the Erie Canal is a canal in the US connecting Lake Erie to the Hudson River. |
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May-14-06
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| dakgootje: < If it wasn't clear from <tamar>, the Erie Canal is a canal in the US connecting Lake Erie to the Hudson River.> Thanks, as it wasnt clear enough for me ;-) and whether we know about the canal in the netherlands... well of course i cant speak for all of the dutchies, but i doubt whether i know one who has ever heard of the Erie Canal... |
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May-14-06
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| kevin86: The Erie Canal was built to be a 19th century bridge from New York City to the Great Lakes. The Canal went from Albany on the Hudson River to the main port on Lake Erie,Buffalo. Much commerce traveled along the canal until the railroads took over later in the Century. Interesting how knight fork nips at both rooks-or if captured,a bishop does the same dirty work,as pointed out by-a englishman. |
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May-14-06
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| drmariogodrob: <Prugno> Whoops. Then indeed, "keep pawns together and out of the way of one's own king" and "take the opposition" are good advice in this case as well. |
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| May-14-06 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: <tamar> <question marks> Thanks for your help. No, I've never heard of the Erie Canal, though I know of Lake Erie. And I actually confused the river Hudson with the St. Lawrence river. :) Of course, the pun makes perfect sense now! Good pun! |
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| May-14-06 |
| PaulLovric: <vangelis: first!> LOL its still going on, ha. Greetings again one and all from sunny Tasmania Australia. I am back!!!!!! |
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May-14-06
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| Benzol: Are there many songs concerning the Great Lakes? "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" is one I know of. |
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| May-14-06 |
| Jim Bartle: Does this count?
Randy Newman's "Burn On, Big River" is about the Cuyahoga River where it flows into Lake Erie. This river was so polluted that it actually caught fire in 1969. |
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May-15-06
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| weisyschwarz: Nothing eerie about this game. I think "Root Canal" would have been a better pun. |
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May-15-06
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| kevin86: and more painful pun:) |
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May-15-06
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| Resignation Trap: For songs about the Great Lakes, I would recommend http://www.danhall.com/albums.html and http://www.leemurdock.com/html/lee_... . |
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sac: 28...exd5