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Karel Treybal vs Vladimir Petrov
"The Treybal with Troubles" (game of the day Apr-12-12)
Olympiad (1933)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Classical Variation (B58)  ·  0-1
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Apr-12-12
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  HeMateMe: Didn't white have anything besides that horrible Queen to b1 move, in the late middlegame?
Apr-12-12  LoveThatJoker: <HeMateMe> 26. Qb1 is the only move that doesn't lose a pawn immediately!

LTJ

Apr-12-12
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  HeMateMe: I know a pawn was being defended, but it lets black come in and take over the position, getting all his pieces coordinated. It seemed better for white create counterplay at the other end, than to put the queen in a passive position.
Apr-12-12
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  King Sacrificer: See how Black Bishop travels from c3 to critical square g3 between moves 34-37. At this moment White has one free move which he uses to threaten the Bishop with the Queen, but Black Knight comes just in time for a possible K-Q fork and White Queen is paralyzed.
Apr-12-12  LoveThatJoker: <HeMateMe> I understood what you meant the first time, however the position is one of total passivity for White.

If he tries to get too frisky, he'll just wind up with two enemy Rooks on his second rank as the only weakness Black has in his position is b7 and that can hardly be considered a source of serious counterplay when Black threatens to destroy White's entire queenside (while still keeping a material advantage, no-less).

LTJ

Apr-12-12
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  FSR: Petrov was a very strong player who could have been a contender for the world championship if he had not died in a Soviet gulag in 1943. His greatest triumph was at Kemeri 1937, where he tied for first with Reshevsky and Flohr, ahead of Alekhine and Keres.
Apr-12-12
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  FSR: A scene from "The Trouble With Tribbles": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ6L...
Apr-12-12
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  Garech: A strange game today, as is often the case when we see old masters playing what to them was a relatively new opening, but to us is an opening where there couldn't be more theory. Thus it appears that both sides play rather tamely and passively for a Sicilian!

21.Nf6+?? though tempting is clearly losing. One of the imbalances I enjoy the most in chess is two or three weaker pieces against a queen - and this game is a good example of why.

Cheers,

-Garech

Apr-12-12  nummerzwei: <Garech>: I find your comment unwarranted.
Apr-12-12
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  AylerKupp: <Phony Benoni> I should have known that the pun in the original order was used previously. But I actually like this reverse one better, it puts a "twist" to it.

And my favorite line of the entire episode, possibly the entire series, is when, after a flip remark by Captain Kirk, Nilz Baris (William Schallert) tells him "Captain, you don't seem to take your job very seriously."

To which Captain Kirk replies: "Oh no, sir, I take my job very seriously. It is you I don't take seriously."

Throughout my 40-year career I met quite a few idiots who took themselves far more seriously that their abilities deserved. I was hoping that one of them would, after a flip remark on my part (for which I was known), would say something along the lines of my not taking my job seriously so that I could come back with that response of Captain Kirk's. Alas, I never got the chance.

Apr-12-12  King Death: <nummerzwei> I'm not sure why you'd have a problem with what <Garech> said, many of the early Sicilians were played passively by White. Even in games I've seen as late as the 1950s White players didn't seem to understand that they had to play for the attack since most Sicilian endings are good for Black because of his better pawn structure.
Apr-12-12
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  kevin86: A queen is powerful,but not so against a rook,knight,and bishop.
Apr-12-12
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  Once: A game which proves, if proof were needed, that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.

Here many minor pieces for black outweigh a fewer stronger pieces for white. Until white has only one left piece left. And then gets mated.

Apr-12-12
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  Peligroso Patzer: <newzild: I must be one of the few people who didn't like that episode.

Still, a good pun and a good game.>

I also found the "Tribbles" episode less than compelling, actually very near the bottom of any ranking I might compile of the various episodes from original Star Trek series. (What was the point of that episode, any way, if any fan cares to explain?)

Nevertheless, it was a famous episode, and the pun is outstanding ... truly wince-worthy.

Apr-12-12
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  Peligroso Patzer: <Once: A game which proves, if proof were needed, that <the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.> *** >

That philosophy can be noble, indeed, when it forms the basis for individual choice (as with Mr. Spock’s choice in the “Wrath of Khan”, the most-brilliant-ever cinematic combined interpretation of “Moby-Dick” and “Tale of Two Cities”). Beware, however, the government that undertakes to enforce that ethos on its citizenry.

Apr-12-12  vajeer: Is 24. Qb5 stronger than Qe4
Apr-12-12
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  Once: The philosophy can also be reversed, as when the crew subequently risk their lives to save Spock. Sometimes the needs of the one or the few can outweigh the needs of the many. Perhaps showing that humanity is sometimes supremely illogical.
Apr-12-12
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  OhioChessFan: <Sometimes the needs of the one or the few can outweigh the needs of the many. >

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C70...

Apr-12-12  nummerzwei: <King Death: <nummerzwei> I'm not sure why you'd have a problem with what <Garech> said, many of the early Sicilians were played passively by White. Even in games I've seen as late as the 1950s White players didn't seem to understand that they had to play for the attack since most Sicilian endings are good for Black because of his better pawn structure.>

OK, but <Garech> said that <both sides play rather tamely>. As far as I can see, however, Black didn't. Secondly, the Dragon (with Be2, of course) was hardly novel at that time, having been played prominently already by Lasker. I just felt that <Garech's> comment may be more appropriate for other games, such as these:

H Mueller vs H Johner, 1934

Marshall vs Pillsbury, 1904

Apr-12-12
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  maxi: <Marmot PFL: The bios say neither player survived WW2. Treybal was shot by the Gestapo and Petrov died in the Gulag.> Quote from The Devil´s Advocate, "Who, in their right mind, Kevin, could possibly deny the twentieth century was entirely mine?"
Apr-12-12
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  HeMateMe: <The Trouble with Tribbles> introduces Harry Mudd to audiences. What's not to like?
Apr-13-12  nummerzwei: I may be beating a dead horse, but nonetheless I would like to help my case along by saying that the position after the first eleven moves of this game is identical with that after the first ten of the recent Ding Yixin-Tan Zhongyi game in a Chinese Women's Tournament, the only exception being that White gained the useful move h3 here (Tan played d7-d5).
Apr-15-12  newzild: <HeMateMe: The Trouble with Tribbles introduces Harry Mudd to audiences. What's not to like?>

Harry Mudd.

Apr-16-12
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  Benzol: <HeMateMe> <<The Trouble with Tribbles> introduces Harry Mudd to audiences.>

No it doesn't! Harry Mudd appeared twice in original Star Trek. The episodes were "Mudd's Women" and "I Mudd".

Apr-20-12
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  DarthStapler: The name of the merchant in this episode was Cyrano Jones
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