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| May-16-14 | | Petrosianic: In the case of Grigoriev-Alekhine, I believe they found the smoking gun, in the form of a 1913 game, in which Alekhine was <White>, and he gave the Grigoriev game in his margin notes as a "fantastic line" that might have been played. |
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| May-16-14 | | Capacorn: <Petrosianic: In the case of Grigoriev-Alekhine, I believe they found the smoking gun, in the form of a 1913 game, in which Alekhine was <White>, and he gave the Grigoriev game in his margin notes as a "fantastic line" that might have been played.> O, the flights of fancy that magnificent chess mind must have enjoyed.... |
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| Jan-30-15 | | welhelm1982: If i steel remember i had read this game about 10 years ago in old book and nn was reshevsky or janovsky |
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| Jan-30-15 | | Albion 1959: Is this not the infamous game in which this was not a real game, but one where Alekhine composed the moves beforehand ? and beside who is the mysterious NN anyway ? |
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| Jan-31-15 | | aliejin: For me it is much harder to believe
a game between Alekhine and Capablanca in championship
world ended checkmate with 4 queens on the board ....
and yet, it happened! (Ok, Capalanca left a few plays before
unavoidable mate) |
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| Jun-10-15 | | Howard: But did Alekhine have a forced win at any point in this "game" ? |
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| Jun-11-15 | | Howard: Still wondering..... |
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| Jun-11-15 | | Howard: Just looked up a file of Alekhine's games, featuring corrections. Apparently if Alekhine had simply queened his pawn on the 20th move, he would have won. Comments ? |
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| Oct-10-15 | | Helios727: If black played 24... Bg4+ (threatening Rxg8) would white still have a quick win or would he have to trade down and do the slow grind? |
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| Dec-03-15 | | MariusDaniel: Alexander Alekhine played a beautiful game of chess.Great skills!! |
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| Dec-20-15 | | thegoodanarchist: AA was tough enough with one queen. Allowing him two more was just suicide. |
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| Jul-05-16 | | Johnnysaysthankyou: I believe by all accounts that I would have no trouble finding Rh6. Such a move is more fitting of Tal than Alekhine. |
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| Jul-05-16 | | AlicesKnight: I have not read all the posts on this strange game, but I just wondered (IF it were genuine): In his "Best games 1908-23" Alekhine notes "... a game played by the author..." and continues with the 5Q game in the annotations. Could it be that he left the above note unclear because he (Alekhine) had been BLACK in the game? Odd of course if so - his only loss in his 2 volumes.... |
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| Oct-28-16 | | The Kings Domain: Fun and unique game. |
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| Dec-04-16 | | thegoodanarchist: 24.Rh6! leaves the king's bishop en pris.
But who needs a bishop when you have three queens! Three! |
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| Aug-26-17 | | The Kings Domain: What a game. Truly one of a kind. |
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| Aug-26-17 | | WorstPlayerEver: <just a kid: 15...Bf8! is better than 15...Qxa2>
I went through the game and stopped at 15. Ke2
Noticed in a few secs that 15... Qa6 16. Kd2 Qa5 17. Ke2 leads to repetition. To my surprise SF suggested 15... Bf8
A positional move 16. gf8 Bf8 and Black seems to have a good game. However, after 17. h7 Qc3 18. Kd1 Nc6 it leads to a comparable repetition 10 moves later: 19. Bb5 Qf6 20. Nf3 Rh8 21. Qg8 Ke7 22. Qg3 Qc3 23. Bc6 bc6 24. Qc7 Bd7 25. Ne5 Qd4 26. Ke2 Qe4 27. Kd2 Qd4 28. Ke2 Qe4 |
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| Aug-26-17 | | waustad: The 5 queens reminds me of the Eva Moser game https://www.365chess.com/game.php?g... |
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| Jan-23-20 | | Howard: Back around October, 1976 (approx), Krabbe ran an article in CL&R about the
powers of "mass suggestion" in chess. This game was the first example given in the article. He points out that 24.Rh6 !! was raved about so much, that for decades no one questioned the move very much. But sometime decades later, someone discovered that that move did NOT win after all. The question is, did Alekhine have a forced win anyway ? Lemme check at home for that issue---I have it somewhere. |
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Jan-23-20
 | | perfidious: Nowadays, the veriest novice would simply run Stockfish and post the refutation of Alekhine's conception out of hand. |
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Jan-23-20
 | | beatgiant: <Howard>
<22. Bd3> seems like an improvement, but we'd definitely need to run a deep computer analysis to see whether it wins. |
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| May-03-21 | | SymphonicKnight: Amazing game with multiple queens. Alekhine threw away his opening advantage with 11.gxh4?! (11.dxc5!).
Then 15...Qxa2?? (15...Bf8 equal) handed the game to white, but Alekhine played 20.Qgxe6+? instead of (20.g8=Q!? or 20.Qff4!) which lost his overwhelming advantage, and then 22.Qee3+? instead of (22.Qxe7!) threw away most of the rest of his advantage. Of these moves, Kasparov only questions 15...Qxa2?, but does not recognize Alekhine's mistakes. |
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| Oct-21-24 | | Misirius: 24)-----Qxf1? appears to be a mistake. Better for black is 24)------Bg4+!! which appears to draw. |
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| Jul-19-25 | | Garech: <Misirius: 24)-----Qxf1? appears to be a mistake. Better for black is 24)------Bg4+!! which appears to draw.> 24...Bg4+! is definitely the best move for black, but after the relatively forcing line 25. Qgxg4 Bxe3 26. Qxe3+ Qc5 27. Qxc5+ Kxc5 28. Kg2 Re8 29. Nf3 (with the threat of Rh4) white has a significant edge (+1.70 or so) and it's going to be a difficult endgame for black: 
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| Jul-19-25 | | Garech: Note that Tim Krabbe has done some analysis of the 24...Bg4+ line (which he claims is a draw) but it contains some mistakes. He gives: 24...Bg4+ 25.Qgxg4 Bxe3 26.Qxe3+ Qc5 27.Qxc5+ Kxc5 28.Kg2 a5? (Re8 is best) 29.Rh5 Qb4? (Re8 is again best, although perhaps now a little inconsistent with black's apparent plan of advancing his a pawn) 30. Qe6? (Qf3 is stronger) Rd8 31. Nf3: 
click for larger viewafter which he claims "it seems a4 is possible and Black is no worse" - but in actual fact white is clearly better here (+2.3 or so) and a4 is not given as the best move (it would be +3.0 for white) and either Qf4 or Kb6 is preferred. https://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess/... |
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