|Mar-24-05|| ||Snow Man: Awesome game! |
|Aug-18-13|| ||notyetagm: Metger vs Tarrasch, 1887|
<Snow Man: Awesome game!>
Fischer was *very* impressed with Dr. Tarrasch's play. He said it was "razor-sharp".
|Aug-19-13|| ||JoergWalter: Tarrasch in "300 >Schachpartien" mentions a game Rocamora vs Tarrasch where he first refuted 10.Bf4.|
Does anybody have this game?
Also he gives this line: (instead of 11.Be3)
11.Bg3 h5 12.Nd4 h4 13.Nxc6 hxg3
14.Nxd8 Lxf2+ 15.Rxf2 gxh2
|Aug-19-13|| ||thomastonk: <JoergWalter> It is not mentioned in Morgan's "The Chess Digest" Vol. I from 1901, so it will be hard to find.|
|Aug-19-13|| ||JoergWalter: <thomastonk> I didn't say it is going to be easy :-). However, if you say so, I believe it will be very hard to find.|
|Aug-19-13|| ||thomastonk: <JoergWalter> Do you know "The Chess Digest"?|
|Aug-19-13|| ||JoergWalter: <thomastonk> no|
|Aug-19-13|| ||thomastonk: <JoergWalter: no> Okay, then I take the occasion to explain this interesting source. |
Mordecai Morgan's "The Chess Digest" has an interesting subtitle: "Containing the opening moves of over fiftheen thousand games systematically arranged under the various openings, practically including all games played in the leading tournaments and matches from the year 1850 to 1901 together with names of players and references to all the tournament books and periodicals in which the games have been recorded."
This explains what it is: a meta-index! Take this game here, Metger vs Tarrasch: it has 4 references, Frankfurt tournament book, p 163, Tarrasch's book p.121, BCM 1895 p36 and DSZ 1888 p 49. So you can find the different comments quite easily!
The main information was not that the Rocamora game will be hard to find. Instead you know which sources you don't have to consult. Here is a list: http://www.pic-upload.de/view-20460....
Unfortunately, I have only the first volume (covering some open games) and its update from 1905 (covering the years in between).
|Aug-19-13|| ||JoergWalter: <thomastonk> thank you for this information. Just wondering whether these huge databases nowadays would have it?|
|Aug-19-13|| ||thomastonk: <JoergWalter> Well, I first tried to find the game in what I call my collector's database, of course.|
|Aug-19-13|| ||JoergWalter: <thomastonk> the collector's database is your very own, I suppose. for the above mentioned variatin Tarrasch writes that it was played by B. Richter at the Frankfurter Kongress (Hauptturnier). Also not in this database.
would you have it?|
|Aug-19-13|| ||thomastonk: <JoergWalter> Well, a call it this way, because it contains a lot of games, but you cannot trust it at all.|
About the Richter game: "The Chess Digest" mentions Barnes vs Richter, Frankfurt Tournamant book, p. 249. Here it comes from this primary source: http://www.pic-upload.de/view-20464....
|Aug-19-13|| ||JoergWalter: <thomastonk> thank you, very much appreciated|