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| Jun-21-12 | | LoveThatJoker: <SuperPatzer77> It's good hear from you and thanks for the kind acknowledgment! LTJ |
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| Jun-21-12 | | Djoker: Thanks,
<LoveThatJoker> You are right, last two moves should be in opposite direction. I'll bear your point in mind next time.
Also, good job <TheBish> |
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Jun-21-12
 | | sevenseaman: Good to see some more angles to the skirmish.
23. Rg7+ Kh8 24. Rg8+ Rxg8
25. Be5+ f6 26. Bxf6+ Rg7 27. Rd8+ Qg8
28. Bxg7+ Kxg7 29. Rxg8+ Kxg8
With White up a N. It looks like some contrived fun. But its something that titillates the senses too. The guy who resigned early must have seen all the contortions. |
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| Jun-21-12 | | LoveThatJoker: <Djoker> Thanks for the kind acknowledgment! As I said to a fellow newcomer, <JamesConnelly>, yesterday; keep coming over to solve puzzles with us regulars! LTJ |
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Jun-21-12
 | | FSR: The rook sac was obvious but I missed the 26.Rg5+! and 27.Rg4+! idea. |
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| Jun-21-12 | | poszvald: Rxg7+ works:
Case1:
23, Rxg7+ Kh8
24, Rg8+ Rxg8 (..Kxg8 25, Rg1+ Kh8 26, Be5+ f6 27, Bxf6#) 25, Be5+ f6
26, Bxf6+ Rg7
27, Rd8#
Case2:
23, Rxg7+ Kxg7
24, Rg1+ Kh6 (..Kh8 25, Be5+ f6 26, Bxf6#)
25, Bf4+ Kh5
26, Rg5+ Kh4
27, Rg4+ Kxh3 (..Kh5 28, Nf6#)
28, Nf2# |
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| Jun-21-12 | | Deji: MY GOOODNEEESSSS!!! Beautiful! |
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| Jun-21-12 | | Zatrikion: 23.Rxg7+ 1-0
a) King does not take the R:
23..Kh8
24.Rg8+ Kxg8
25.Rg1+ Kh8
26.Be5+ f6
27.Bxf6#
or 24..Rxg8
25.Be5+ Rg7
26.Rd8#
b) King takes the R:
23..Kxg7
24.Rg1+ Kh6 (Kh8 then Be5+ and Bxf6#)
25.Bf4+ Kh5
26.Rg5+
b1)26..Kh6
27.Rg4+ Kh5
28.Nf6#
b2)26..Kh4
27.Rg4+ Kxh3 (27..Kh5 28.Nf6# as on b1 flow)
28.Nf2# |
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| Jun-21-12 | | Zatrikion: Wow! So there is a case black is not mate, having f6 opening the diagonal for Q! Good to see other kibitzers' comments!! However, it is a winning ending game for white with a N up |
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Jun-21-12
 | | James D Flynn: 23.Rxg7+ Kxg7 24.Rg1+ Kh6 29.Bf4+ Kh5 30.Rg5+ Kh4(if Kh6 31.Rg4+ Kh5 32.Nf6#) 31.Rg4+ Kxh3(if Kh5 32.Nf6#) 32.Nf2# |
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| Jun-21-12 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: An evaluation function based on material alone might rate this position about even, but the "activity index" strongly favors white, especially with black's rook not in play. With four units in active play and the black king defended only by pawns, white can easily afford to sac one to expose the BK. 23.Rxg7+! is the forcing continuation that leads straight to victory: A) 23... Kxg7 24.Rg1+ Kh6 (Kh8 25.Be5+ mates nexts) 25.Bf4+ Kh5 26.Rg5+ (Nf6+?? Kh4 27.Rg4+ Kxh3 lets black out) Kh4 (Kh6 27.Rg4+ Kh5 28.Nf6#) 27.Rg4+ Kh3 (Kh5 28.Nf6#) 28.Nf2# B) 23... Kh8 24.Rg8+! (Be5 also seems to win, with complications) Rxg8 (Kxg8 25.Rg1+ Kh8 26.Be5+ forces mate) 25.Be5+ f6 26.Bxf6+ Rg7 27.Rd8+ Qg8 28.Bxg7+ Kxg7 29.Rxg8+ is a won ending (N+3Ps vs 3Ps). Time for review... |
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| Jun-21-12 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: <<LTJ>...but as a good technical habit to get into, 28. Bxg7+ Kxg7 29. Rxg8+ Kxg8 is better for White as Black's K is one square further from h3.> A nice instructive point. |
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Jun-21-12
 | | scormus: Quite a neat finish and well thought out by W in view of the possibility 23 ... Kxg7 and 24 ... Kh6. Not so easy to see OTB |
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Jun-21-12
 | | SuperPatzer77: < poszvald: Rxg7+ works:
Case1:
23, Rxg7+ Kh8
24, Rg8+ Rxg8 (..Kxg8 25, Rg1+ Kh8 26, Be5+ f6 27, Bxf6#) 25, Be5+ f6 26, Bxf6+ Rg7
27, Rd8# >
<poszvald> It is not mate - you overlook Black Queen's interposition to g8. 27. Rd8+ (not mate) Qg8, 28. Bxg7+ Kxg7, 29. Rxg8+ Kxg8 - leaving White one knight up and White wins. SuperPatzer77 |
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Jun-21-12
 | | Memethecat: <<<<<<< 23.Rxg7+ Kxg7 (23...Kh8 24.?)>
24.Rg1+ Kh6 (24...Kh8 25.Be5+ f6 26.Bxf6#)> 25.Bf4+ Kh5 The next bits took me a while to see, for some reason I thought it would be better to leave the R on g1 & use N & R to trap the K.> 26.Rg5+ Kh4 (26...Kh6 27.Rg4+ Kh5 Nf6#)>
27.Rg4+ Kxh3 (27...Kh5 28.Nf6#)>
28.Nf2#>
It wasn't until I started to write down the above that I considered 23...Kh8, I thought I'd go back to it when I finished, but by then I couldn't be bothered, so of course, the only line I didn't follow was the answer, loverly!!!> |
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Jun-21-12
 | | whiteshark: <23.Rxg7+ Kxg7 24.Rg1+ Kh6 25.Bf4+ Kh5
26.Rg5+ Kh4 27.Rg4+ Kxh3 28.Nf2#>, and that's it. |
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| Jun-21-12 | | DrWeevil: So close! Saw everything except for 27. Rg4+... very nice! |
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| Jun-21-12 | | sfm: Well, checks, with a few forced responses = easy, eh? ;-) OK, the -,Kh6 variation had to be calculated. but it was not so easy to calculate all the way through from 16.exf6!!, a fine Sunday-puzzle move. Suddenly a lot happens. It looks like Black will come out with Q against B+R. Both the White bishop and the Black knight on f1 is hanging after 18.-,Kxf8. 
click for larger view
Ah, but White can catch the knight with 19.Bf4. Nope, the knight can escape with 19.-,Ng3. If 20.BxN,Qg5+. But 20.Rhg1, and now we see that the knight still has to go. 20,-,Nh5 21.Rg1. So Black tries 20.-,Nxe4, and the rest we know. So better was 20.-,Ne2+ 21.NxN,Qxa2 - and though it is over anyway, Black can still fight. Great little game, and even though this Franco is unknown, nothing in the game would indicate that he would not be a strong player, possibly beating all of us! |
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| Jun-21-12 | | gofer: Black looks okay, but his defensive has a huge weakness. <23 Rxg7+ ...>
The rook is immune!
23 ... Kxg7
24 Rg1+ Kh6 (Kh8 25 Be5+ mating)
25 Bf4+ Kh5
26 Rg5+ Kh4 (Kh6 Ra5+  )
27 Rg4+ Kxh4 (Kh5 Nf6#)
28 Nf2#
<23 ... Kh8>
24 Rg8+ Rxg8
25 Be5+ f6
26 Bxf6 Rg7
27 Rd8+ Qg8
28 Rxg8+ Kxg8
29 Bxg7 Kxg7
30 Nd6
But is there anything better? Well there is something different! <24 Be5 ...>
24 ... Re8 25 Rdg1 mating
<24 ... Qa1+>
<25 Kd2 ...>
25 ... Rd8+
25 Ke3!
White's Rd1 is immune AND is attacking both Qa1 and Rd8! 
click for larger viewSo black must continue with its queen, not its rook.
<25 ... Qa5+>
<26 Bc3 Rd8+>
<27 Ke3! ...>
click for larger viewNow black's chance are severely limited the best option is probably to try and sacrifice
the queen to exchange down for B+R. Either way white ends up a full knight up... |
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Jun-21-12
 | | chrisowen: Amazing hap, i as so intricate spent some gauping at effect in f6 too clinch mob handed mating netter in g7 after kingh8 huge ordeal in examined unroaming queen flash i on captain <a1+ b2> etc whites heart surge has been stoked as there is no breakthrough in turning my focus too languish in clipping g7 as straight in away it we edifice in capping a stalk in g7 black king booted to h8 otherwise eeking h6 provides me a golden chance to invigorate pieces kingside low and behold go a ship in the night <23.nf6+ kh8> and light muster in green a key tread over f6 retreats in giving old gate queen starts ripe picking harvest in check it ok in b2. Surmising back track i stumbled in underneath is tell in g7 left hole in loom a king corner and i g8! Point being in white can smother his king and emerge white knight to the good after exchanges in just e5 presents faith in abundance little fiddling in with rookd7 d8 a cubed f6 in i symbol champ ganes hanging rook queen i net his instance pressing <25.be5+ f6 26.bxf6+ rg7 27.rd8+> |
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| Jun-21-12 | | poszvald: SuperPatzer77, you are right, after kibitzing, I have checked other kibitzers posts as well and I overlooked that, however it is not changing the white 1-0, as after exchanges a knight is enough to sack the game. |
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Jun-21-12
 | | Pawn and Two: A very pleasing puzzle. I often puzzle some of the members at my chess club with the fascinating positions here at chessgames.com. This puzzle will be making an appearance at my club soon. I briefly looked at 23.Nf6+, but then I concentrated on 23.Rxg7+. I first reviewed 23...Kxg7 24.Rg1+, however it took me some time before I found 26.Rg5+, and the mate. I was suspecting the other line, 23.Rxg7+ Kh8, might be easier, with the possibility of white making another rook move. But this line proved to have a surprising twist. While I was considering my various rook moves, or the possibility of moving my bishop to the a1-h8 diagonal, I happened to spot the move 24.Rg8+!. At first it seemed just too unlikely to work, but it does. |
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| Jun-21-12 | | LoveThatJoker: <CHESSTTCAMPS> Thanks for saying that, man! I appreciate it! LTJ |
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Jun-21-12
 | | keypusher: <Sneaky: Wow! Where does chessgames.com find these positions?? This is one of the prettiest combinations I've seen for an over-the-board game.> Word. |
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| Jun-21-12 | | Djoker: <LoveThatJoker> I do solve puzzles, but most of the time...I am either totally stumped(fri+) or generally I find lines...and then read up all the kbitzing, to clear my doubts...And I feel quite reluctant to post.
But you are right, I will try to be regular as I see many helpful people around. |
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