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Adolf Anderssen vs Emil Schallopp
Berlin (1864), Berlin GER
King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit. Blackburne Attack (C31)  ·  1-0
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Oct-14-02  drukenknight: no Sneaky ...Qd4 is fine. The first mistake is Anderssens! 8 d4? 8 00 was about the only move there. Obviously blacks 8...Qxd4 was blunder, grabbing more material when ahead in material is incorrect. Looks like the winning lnie should start w/ 8....Qe7 probably. PUt that in your computer and see if the computer doesnt show you blacks winning line.
Oct-14-02
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  Sneaky: I can't find a forced win after 8...Qe7 but I still prefer White. Consider 8.d4 Qe7 9.Nc3 f5 10.Nd5 Qd7 11.Bf4 Na6 12. Be5, it's tough to find a good move for Black there.
Oct-14-02  drukenknight: Im sorry 8 d4 is correct move. Why? it is attacking move. why in theory, that pawn can move down the d file and check the K. It will never happen of course (really? never?) but that move should work because in theory it is an attacking move.

Okay then 8...Qxd4 is then definite blunder you cannot normally grab more material when you are ahead. As you can see the Q was out of position anderssen will hit the Q and develop more pieces.

So after gaining time to develop a piece white is still behind in material. SO he needs to attack: 11 00

Of course this is attacking move because there is check to be given on f7

12 Bc5 is this attacking move? dunno maybe maybe not. But almost anything wins for instance Rd1 causes further problems. ALmost anything wins because black has made another blunder 11...h3 is wrong because he is making no attempt to exchange 11....Be6 would at least attempt to give back material and save the game.

So black makes two blunders at least, white starts the game w/ tempo so it is like white has 3 extra moves to kill black.

Easy win, ANderssens opponents are like turkeys.

Oct-18-02  Danilomagalhaes: The longest mate is done in 4 moves... White played with a good structure of pieces...
Oct-19-02  Danilomagalhaes: The kingīs gambit is interesting to study, because if your opponent doesnīt have a good defense, he loses. But, if YOU donīt have a good defense, YOU lose. Itīs interesting to search Greco against NNs games with this opening. You can learn a lot about how to make the right moves. Itīs cool because Greco can win with this opening easily...
Dec-16-03  cVeggyman: Ouch, that was a pretty spectacular lost. I like to think the older players, pre 1900's, were more experimental and more willing to do open games. I personally think it is pretty nifty.
Dec-16-03
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  kevin86: A fine mating combination! NEVER underestimate the power of two bishops on the open road! Does Anderssen ever win a game-withOUT sacrificing his queen?!
Dec-16-03  dukesterdog: This is a good demonstration of the danger of waiting too long to castle. Black was doing well until move 10. If he had played 10...Qe5, and then castled on his next move, he would have been fine. Even after 10...Qd8, I think he may have been OK if he castled on his next move. His main mistake was not castling in time.
Dec-16-03  Hidden Skillz: moving the queen right away was the main mistake here imo..attackin the bishop n pawn..
Dec-16-03  rndapology: Interesting first comment Sneaky... why not 12.b6 to shoo the bishop away though...the diagonal blocking castling can be closed off by pawn moves.
Dec-16-03  dukesterdog: I agree that moving the queen so early is a violation of "opening principles"; but in this case, I don't think it is such a big mistake. Sure, it allows white to gain some tempo, but Black gets two pawns in exchange. Black could then trade back some material to regain some tempo. Leaving his King exposed is what cost him the game.
Dec-16-03
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  Sneaky: rndapology: 12...b6 13.Nxe4 (threatning Nxf6#) looks pretty ugly for Black.
Dec-16-03  nextgm: A funny mate. Though 8. d4 is not losing, 8. d3 would have been safer and may have been more solid. The only advantage about sacrificing the d4 pawn was to develop the c1 bishop, and the same purpose is achieved with 8. d3. Black's final mistake was Nbd7, taking away the last escape square for the Black king.
Dec-16-03  Tinluwen: 12. ... Nbd7 is a huge mistake, even though its meant to attack White's dark squared Bishop. It hinders Blacks development of his light squared Bishop. I don't know what would be better though. Personally I would probably play 12. ... Be7.
Dec-16-03  Halfpricemidge: I agree with you, Sneaky, about them trying to get mated spectacularly when playing against someone famous. Even the 1999 Kasparov/Topalov game in Wijk aan Zee seems like turn #19 for black could have been Queen to F8 or Kt to G8 Then pawn to G5 to threaten the undefended Queen instead of pushing the Queen's pawn thereby allowing the 'check' that brought the Black King down. Were they in Kahoots to create this 'Game of the Century'??
Jun-29-04
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  InspiredByMorphy: Nice queen sac!
Jun-21-06  DeepBlade: It loses a piece due 13. Qxe4+ Ne5 14.Qxe5+ Be6

Black is pretty crippled, and should lose.

Dec-29-06  Whitehat1963: Monday puzzle after 12...Nbd7.
Dec-23-09
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  heuristic: mo' better moves:

10...Qe5 11.0-0 Nc6 12.Bf4 Bg4 13.Qf2

11...0-0 12.Rad1 Qe7 13.Nd5 Nxd5 14.Rxd5

12.Nxe4 Be6 13.Nxf6+ gxf6 14.Bxe6 fxe6

12...Bg4 13.Qe3 Qd7 14.Rxf6 gxf6 15.Nxe4

Nov-03-10  Igor Egin: Anderssen played in Morphy style. He developed pieces quickly and defeated his opponent with powerful attack. Notice that after 10th move Shallopp didn't start to develop his Queen's side. He just wanted to gobble pawns.
Jun-24-13  notyetagm: Anderssen vs E Schallopp, 1864

13 ♕e2xe4+!

Jun-24-13  notyetagm: Anderssen vs E Schallopp, 1864

Game Collection: PINS AGAINST SQUARES 13 Qe2xe4+! Black f6-knight is pinned against the f7-mating sq

Jun-24-13  notyetagm: Anderssen vs E Schallopp, 1864

Game Collection: TIYDIIIS - THAT IS YOUR DEFENDER! IT INTERPOSES! IT SHEILDS! 13 Qe2xe4+! Black f6-knight is pinned against the f7-mating sq

Aug-05-13  grasser: This game was filmed live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2hF...

Nov-18-15  Brit: Filming didn't exist back then.
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