Aug-29-04
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| iron maiden: Nice play by Panno. Is he still alive these days? |
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| Aug-29-04 |
| Knezh: Out of curiousity, why is the event called women-veterans? I don't suppose Panno would be playing in singularly women's tournament? |
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| Aug-29-04 |
| drcdwil: <Knezh> It is a women versus veterans tourny. Panno, while not a woman, was considered a veteran in 1992. |
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| Aug-29-04 |
| molinov: <Nice play by Panno. Is he still alive these days?>. Yes his still alive and well. I think he continues to teach. I am sure that he still plays tournaments once in a while. |
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| Aug-29-04 |
| azaris: I don't know which is worse: White's game or the pun. "Oscar Maia Winner"? Groan. |
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| Aug-29-04 |
| Andrew Chapman: Is there a better move for White at move 30? Rc2 fails to Bc5+ and Bc5+ is threatened after Bxb3. |
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Aug-29-04
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| refutor: <knezh> they used to have womens versus veterans "dance" tournaments as they were called. they'd pair the top female players in the world, versus veterans like korchnoi, spassky, panno, portisch, taimanov, etc. i believe even judit polgar played in 1994 ;) unfortunately this tournament doesn't run anymore. here's a site with information on the 2000 tournament http://www.msoworld.com/mindzine/ne... |
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| Aug-29-04 |
| Andrew Chapman: I think white is lost after 28.Qb6. Risky putting Queen on the same diagonal as the King with black's dark-squared bishop lurking about. |
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Aug-29-04
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| kevin86: Not a very good game for white-not only is he attacking when his king is left in the lurch-what is he attacking? Pun is far better (or worse-or liverworst) than the game. |
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Aug-29-04
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| patzer2: White's 29. Rxc4?? loses immediately to 29... Bxc4!  . Better was 29. Rce1 Rce1  . Black has the initiative and an advantage, but White has counterplay and survival chances. |
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May-09-09
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| patzer2: Not so sure I agree with all of my conclusions from five years ago. While 29...Bxc4! is indeed winning for black, I'm not so sure that 29. Rce1 gives White enough to survive. For example, after 29. Rce1 Bd8 30. Qd6 Bc7 31. Qd1 Bb6+ 32. Kh1 Rc3 33.
Rd2 Bc4 34. Bb7 Rf8 35. Nd4 Qxd1 36. Rexd1 Rd8 37. Nc6 Rxd2 38. Rxd2 Bf1 , Black has a decisive zugzwang position. |
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May-09-09
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| al wazir: For once, a truly clever pun. |
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| May-09-09 |
| weary willy: Help. England calling. What is the pun about?! (Wild guess... some brand of Wiener meat product?!) |
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May-09-09
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| Gilmoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_..., scroll down to "Advertising Jingles". |
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| May-09-09 |
| weary willy: Fantastic ... thanks Gilmoy! Briliant concept - to have a sausage so fresh it sings |
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May-09-09
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| patzer2: This is a really well played game by Black, equalizing early in the opening with a nice set up to counter White's plan and accumulating small but increasing positional advantages in the middle game. Although Black already had a clear advantage, the neat double attack after 29. Rxc4? with 29...Bxc4! 30. Qb7 Ba6 made for a nice finish. For a possible opening improvement, White might try the more frequently played 8. Nbd2 as in Kiril Georgiev vs Akopian, 2006 and Bareev vs Judit Polgar, 2007 or 8. Na3 as in
D Norwood vs Kudrin, 1988. |
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May-09-09
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| whiteshark: I'll agree with <weary willy>, thanks to <Gilmoy> to shed light upon it. :D |
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| May-09-09 |
| YoungEd: Best....pun.....ever! |
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May-09-09
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| kevin86: Another rerun? How come it seems that the only new ideas today come from ZEROX? lol White has two powerful pawns in the center,too bad he donated his game for it. |
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May-09-09
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| waustad: They probably changed the jingle to avoid the issue of the death of the subjunctive in English. When somebody did a newer version of "If I were a rich man..." they changed it to "If I was a rich girl..." That usage sounds terrible to somebody literate who is 60ish, almost like "Give to Joe and I." Ugh. |
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| May-09-09 |
| apple pi: Hey, <waustad>, I'm 17 and incorrect subjunctives make me cringe! "If I was a rich girl..." - blaech! |
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| May-09-09 |
| apple pi: <kevin> Hate to be a <pedant>, but it's spelled Xerox and Maia Chiburdanidze is female. |
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May-09-09
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| Chessmensch: Don't pan the pun. This might be the best one ever. |
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| May-09-09 |
| ChessNe1: Final Results:
Veterans 39
Lev Polugaevsky 8.5/12
Oscar Panno 7.0/12
Borislav Ivkov 6.5/12
Vassily Smyslov 6.0/12
Efim Geller 6.0/12
Wolfgang Uhlmann 5.0/12
Women 33
Judit Polgar 7.5/12
Zuszsa (Susan) Polgar 6.5/12
Pia Cramling 6.0/12
Alisa Galliamova 5.0/12
Ketevan Arakhamia 4.0/12
Maia Chirburdanidze 4.0/12 |
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May-10-09
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| Duque Roquero: The game is not really good but indeed the sausage pun is one the worst aberrations ever written. |
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