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Fritz Riemann vs Koeltsch / Pfeiffer / Roesner
"Three Men and a Baby" (game of the day Feb-12-2008)
Breslau (1873)
Italian Game: Evans Gambit. Compromised Defense (C52)  ·  1-0
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Feb-12-08
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  al wazir: White's win isn't so clear after 15...Bxc3. If 16. Rc1, then 16...Bb2!
Feb-12-08  mrbiggs: Koeltsch: Hey guys, which line of the Evans should we play?

Pfeiffer: Oooo, let's play the compromised defense.

Roesner: Yeah, that sounds good.

Koeltsch. The compromised defense!?

Pfeiffer: Yeah!

Roesner: Yeah!

lol

Feb-12-08  grasser: 15...Bxc3
16.Ne4 wins a piece.
Feb-12-08  moppa: What about 15...Bxc3 16.Ne4 Bxa1!?
Feb-12-08  PolishPentium: In light of the way the one player brutalizes the three, a better title for today's g.o.t.d. is "The Three Little Wolves and the Big, Bad Pig"... For those of you who are curious, that's a children's story that turns the familiar nursery-rhyme on its head. Charming story, and with very funny accompanying pictures...
Feb-12-08
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  whiteshark: <Big, Bad Pig> tiny tongue twister :$
Feb-12-08
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  whiteshark: White missed <14.Nd5!!> and it's instantly over.


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Feb-12-08  HOTDOG: a famous consultation game was played in the USSR IN 1952.Averbach,Geller,Petrosian and Taimanov played with White,and Keres,Tolush,Kotov and Boleslavskij with Black;then also Botvinnik and Smyslov joined the White team.the game is featured here:

Taimanov vs Boleslavsky, 1952

Feb-12-08
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  Phony Benoni: Two movie puns in a row. We must be getting close to the Oscars.

Feb-12-08
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  Benzol: I hear the writers strike is over.
Feb-12-08
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  whiteshark: Does that also mean better puns in the future ?? :D
Feb-12-08
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  Jimfromprovidence: White also missed 15 Bxe7! instead of Rxe7, forking rook and queen. This also wins easily.


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Since white did play 15 Rxe7?, black could not only have survived but also won material by answering with 15...d6!


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White's now unprotected rook and knight are simultaneously attacked.

Assuming 16 Nxe7 Kxe7, black is now up two pawns.

Feb-12-08
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  Chessmensch: Black moved only one pawn. I guess that devleloping pieces and controlling the center was not fashionable in Breslau back then.
Feb-12-08
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  al wazir: <grasser: 15...Bxc3 16. Ne4 wins a piece.>

16... Bxa1 17. Nxf6+ Bxf6 18. Re3 Rd8. Black has ♖+♗+♙+♙+♙ vs. ♕.

Feb-12-08  RandomVisitor: 15...d6 .

15.Bxe7 .

14.Nd5 .

13...b5 =.

12...Qf5 .

Feb-12-08  Abaduba: <jimfromprovidence> after 15. …d6, 16. ♘xf7+! seems to win for White: if 16. … ♕xe7 then 17. ♘h6+ leads to smothered mate via Philidor's Legacy. 16. … ♕xc3 meets the same fate (it's double-check, so Qxc4 is not possible, as does any other move that fails to stop the double-check. If 16. … ♖xf7 then 17. ♖e8 is mate. I can't see any way to stop mate other than 16. ♕xf7, letting White take the Queen with a clear .
Feb-12-08  Abaduba: <jimfromprovidence> Also, 15. ♗xe7?, gives up the advantage for White because after 15. … ♕xc3 the Bishop on e7 interferes with the back-rank mate played in the game. After the forced (as far as I can see; corrections welcome) sequence 16. ♕xc3 ♗xc3 17. ♗xf8 ♗xe1 (17. … ♗xa1 18. ♖e8!) 18. ♖xe1 ♔xf8 (18. ♗a3 ♗e2 and Black is just up two pawns) and now Black has regained the exchange and liquidated to the endgame, but it is not a win for Black because after 19. ♘xh7+ ♔g8 20. ♘g4 ♔f8 and the back-rank threat allows White to escape with a draw by perpetual. Black can also play 20. … g6 to go for the win, but after 21. ♖e8+ ♔g7 22. ♖f7 it doesn't look promising. 15. ♖xe7!, then, is the only winning move.
It turns out that young Riemann knew what he was doing, after all.
Feb-12-08
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  Jimfromprovidence: <abaduba>< after 15. …d6, 16. Nxf7+! seems to win for White: if 16. … Qxe7 then 17. h6+ leads to smothered mate via Philidor's Legacy.>

With all due respect to Philidor (whoever that is) 17...Kh8 and black is fine. There is no smothered mate available; this continuation only lets black gain more material.


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Feb-12-08  alexirc: yeah 15 Bxe7 would have been a game winner.
Feb-13-08
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  Benzol: <Jimfromprovidence> <With all due respect to Philidor (whoever that is)...>

Gently chuckles. <Jim> see François André Philidor if you really don't know. He was probably the strongest player to emerge before Morphy (please don't tell me you don't know him either).

:)

Feb-13-08
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  Jimfromprovidence: <Benzol> <Gently chuckles. <Jim> see François André Philidor if you really don't know. He was probably the strongest player to emerge before Morphy (please don't tell me you don't know him either).:)>

Thanks for the link. I've seen the name mentioned on the site several times, but I did not know anything about the man. I have to admit I'm not a chess history buff.

I did look up Phildor's mate, though, and it clearly does not apply in this continuation. If white plays on move 18 after 15…d6 16 Nxf7 Qxe7 17 Nh6+ Kh8 18 Qg8+?? then 18...Rxg8. White obviously can't play 19 Nf7 because the queen guards the mating square.


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Feb-13-08
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  kevin86: A quick win-via the last row mating technique. Bobby Fischer must have used it in his book.BOBBY FISCHER TEACHES CHESS.

Two reasons:the book was about the type of mate in question. Also,the winner,like Fischer was a teen,like Fischer was when he started his brilliant career.

Feb-22-08  grasser: <al wazir> White does not have to pull back with 18.Re3 because the same theme is there. 18.Qxf7+
Feb-28-08  D.Observer: Nice combo. A good <<Tuesday> or <Wednesday> puzzle> might be <16. ?>.
Jan-13-09  WhiteRook48: wow! This guy beats 3 other people in consultation!
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