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Aug-01-06
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| Honza Cervenka: <Why didn't black play 21...Rf8 ?> Maybe black was afraid of 22.Bf6. |
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Aug-01-06
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| Honza Cervenka: <If 21...RF8 then 22.Rxg7++> 22...Qxg7  |
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| Aug-01-06 |
| Gowe: <Ajile> Rxg7 is not mate. Because QxR. <Al wazir>
If 21.... Rf8 22.Nxf8 now if ...Qxe7 <The Queen is threaten>23.Bxe7 and NxN is not possible, because RxN is mate. And if Queen doesn't take on e7, then NxN, and white is really good. |
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| Aug-01-06 |
| Gowe: <Honza Cervenka>
22.Bf6 is too killer. You are right, Bf6 wins with mate in every variation. Great move! |
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Aug-01-06
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| Honza Cervenka: <Gowe> The problem is that after 21...Rf8 22.Nxf8 black can take the Bishop on g5 with check (22...Qxg5+) and then after retreat of King (23.Kb1) he takes the Rook on e7. |
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| Aug-01-06 |
| Gowe: Wait. 22.Bf6 Rf7 puts more resistance, but black is still lost. |
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| Aug-01-06 |
| Gowe: You are right <Honza>, then 22.Bf6 is the amazing answer if 21 ... Rf8. This game is incredible. |
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Aug-01-06
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| Honza Cervenka: <You are right, Bf6 wins with mate in every variation.> I am not sure. After 21...Rf8 22.Bf6 Qe3+ 23.Kd1 Rf7 I don't see it though the position is quite complex and without comp one can easily miss something. |
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| Aug-01-06 |
| orio24: Check this game out first:
F Hellers vs DeFirmian, 1989 |
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Aug-01-06
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| WannaBe: <orio24> Good find! I searched my Shredder's database and came up with 2 more... [Event "Budapest FS07 IM"]
[Site "Budapest"]
[Date "1999.07.05"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Friedrichs, Klaus"]
[Black "Aumann, Wolf"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B99"]
[WhiteElo "2148"]
[BlackElo "2311"]
[PlyCount "47"]
[EventDate "1999.07.05"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "13"]
[EventCountry "HUN"]
[EventCategory "3"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1999.09.14"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nf6 4. Nc3 cxd4 5. Nxd4 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Be7 8. Qf3
Qc7 9. O-O-O Nbd7 10. Bd3 b5 11. Rhe1 Bb7 12. Qg3 b4 13. Nd5 exd5 14. e5 dxe5
15. fxe5 Nh5 16. e6 Nxg3 17. exf7+ Kxf7 18. Rxe7+ Kg8 19. hxg3 Qxg3 20. Ne6 Qe5
21. Rf1 Nf8 22. Bf5 Bc8 23. Re8 Kf7 24. Re7+ 1/2-1/2
[Event "NED U20 op"]
[Site "Hengelo"]
[Date "1999.08.14"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Hendriks, Victor"]
[Black "Duijker, Rick"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B99"]
[PlyCount "49"]
[EventDate "1999.08.09"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "NED"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1999.09.14"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Be7 8. Qf3
Qc7 9. O-O-O Nbd7 10. Bd3 b5 11. Rhe1 Bb7 12. Qg3 b4 13. Nd5 exd5 14. e5 dxe5
15. fxe5 Nh5 16. e6 Nxg3 17. exf7+ Kxf7 18. Rxe7+ Kg8 19. hxg3 Qxg3 20. Ne6 Qe5
21. Rf1 Nf8 22. Bf5 Bc8 23. Re8 Kf7 24. Re7+ Kg8 25. Re8 1/2-1/2 |
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| Aug-01-06 |
| Gowe: <Honza> <<After 21...Rf8 22.Bf6 Qe3+ 23.Kd1 Rf7>>
I think is a won game because:
24.Rxf7 <If Kxf7 25.Bg5+ winning the queen>
Qxe6 <Force>
26.Rxg7+ Kf8 27.Bd4+Ke8 28.Bf5 <Winning the Knight, and the position is totally won for white> |
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Aug-01-06
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| Honza Cervenka: <Gowe> After 24.Rxf7 Kxf7 25.Bg5+ Kxe6 black is still a Pawn up though white with strong Bishop pair is definitely not worse and probably even somewhat better. |
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| Aug-01-06 |
| Eggman: Knowing that practically this whole game had been played before (and more than once) really ruined it for me. It's kind of disgusting, actually. I'm thinking more and more about taking up Fischerandom. |
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Aug-01-06
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| ajile: <Gowe: <Ajile> Rxg7 is not mate. Because QxR.> Yes I was thinking he said Rf8 on move 20.
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Aug-01-06
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| al wazir: Apologies to all who were confused by the incorrect move numbers I gave in my analysis. But I did mean 21...Rf8. |
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Aug-01-06
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| kevin86: White sacs the queen and then sets up a lethal attack along the f-file. While all of the focus seems to fall on f8-the final blow falls on f7! Czech,reczech,and Czech again! |
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| Aug-01-06 |
| Margulies: Very nice game by D. Navara! |
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| Aug-02-06 |
| xeneizexxx: Maybe 15...Ng8 is better? |
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| Sep-25-06 |
| blingice: There is no way that this is sound. |
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Mar-26-07
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| Dres1: I have an improvement for black to play on for a win in this line which all sources claim is draw by perpetual. dont ask me what it is.. im saving it for Kasparov's punk ass. |
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Aug-18-07
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| Peligroso Patzer: <blingice: There is no way that this is sound.> After taking a closer look at this game, I agree that Navara’s play was highly speculative and not entirely sound. His 13.Nd5?! ... 14.e5?! ... and 16.e6?! ... were all probably not objectively correct. Nevertheless, the 13-year-old David Navara deserves credit for brilliantly exploiting the errors his opponent made in the great complications that arose during the middlegame. Black held a clear advantage through 21. ... Nf8  , but went wrong with 22. ... Bc8? (better: 22...g6 23.Nxf8 Qxe7 24.Bxe7 gxf5 25.Rxf5 ). After 23. Re8, Black should have taken a draw by repetition (23 ... Kf7=), but after 23. ... Bb7? 24. Bg6, White was better (but not yet clearly winning). Black might still have tried to make a fight of it with 25. ... Rxe8, but after 25. ... gxf6??, White had a forced mate. David Navara vs Jan Helbich Sr, Energy Cup 1998 (Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. Main Line [B99]) 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7 9.0–0–0 Nbd7 10.Bd3 b5 11.Rhe1 Bb7 12.Qg3 b4 13.Nd5?! exd5 14.e5?! [Better: 14.exd5 Kd8 15.Nc6+ Bxc6 16.dxc6 Nc5  ] 14...dxe5 15.fxe5 Nh5 16.e6?! [16.Qh4 Bxg5+ 17.Qxg5 g6 ] 16...Nxg3 17.exf7+ Kxf7 18.Rxe7+ Kg8 [18...Kf8?? 19.Ne6+ Kg8 20.Rxg7#] 19.hxg3 Qxg3 20.Ne6 Qe5 21.Rf1 Nf8 [21...Rf8?! 22.Bf6 Qe3+ 23.Kd1 Rf7 24.Rxf7 (24.Re8+ Nf8–+) 24...Kxf7 25.Bd4+ Kxe6 26.Bxe3 ] 22.Bf5 Bc8? [Better 22...g6 23.Nxf8 Qxe7 24.Bxe7 gxf5 25.Rxf5 ] 23.Re8= Bb7? [Better: 23...Kf7=] 24.Bg6± Qf6 25.Bxf6 gxf6?? [Better: 25...Rxe8 26.Bxe8 gxf6 27.Nc5 Bc8 28.Rxf6 a5 29.Rd6 Kg7 30.Bc6±] 26.Rxf6 Rxe8 [Black could survive one move longer with: 26...hxg6 27.Rfxf8+ Kh7 28.Rxh8#] 27.Bf7# 1–0 |
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Aug-20-07
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| aazqua: Now that is a notable game. Nice thrashing by Navara. |
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| Feb-29-08 |
| sambo: Oh my! A beauty. I hope others get to see this; check the recently kibitzed list, now, people! |
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Jul-02-09
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| JointheArmy: Absolutely beautiful. The kid has so much talent and the fact that he deals with autism makes it unbelievable. |
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| Jul-02-09 |
| cuendillar: I'm not convinced that autism, at least if you don't have it too badly, can't be an asset when playing chess. |
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