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Dragoljub Velimirovic vs Jovan Sofrevski
"Talkin' 'bout my Variation" (game of the day May-24-2014)
YUG-ch (1965), Titograd MNE, rd 7, Dec-??
Sicilian Defense: Velimirovic Attack (B89)  ·  1-0


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Nov-15-11  SimonWebbsTiger: ah, got the move number wrong.

There is a lovely Judit win in this line against Anand.

Nov-16-11  qqdos: <SWT> will do! and thanx. Reverting to the Velimirovic <DrMAL>, the double-edginess which White's Q-side castling induces in Black is a distracting dilemma about his K-safety. Does he castle short (into the attack) or keep his "King in the Middle" (a chapter heading in the Harding/Botteril/Kottenauer Sozin book) and face the dangerous music there "without the services of his KR"? Now for Perenyi and Shirov!
Nov-16-11  DrMAL: Well, before we move too far away from it, I would like to express one thing that I think is very important for all players on this site. Just because top GMs choose or do not choose opening does not make it good or bad at different level. Chess is quite different at that level, they are professional players eating, drinking and breathing chess pretty much 24/7 with genius aptitude to begin with.

Velimirovic attack is fabulous example of very deadly weapon for white, it is one of the best weapons to deeply study and consistently play. Velimirovic attack is both sound and strategic. Nf5 sac usually available or pawn advance g4-g5-h4-g6 (after Na5 as in Nakamura game) teach tempo/initiative and complex tactics, and positions often lead to quick combinative mates so please do not let top GM choices dissuade you from studying and often using Velimirovic attack, cheers.

Nov-16-11  qqdos: <DrMAL> delighted to find such a whole-hearted enthusiast for this stunning idea introduced by Velimirovic!
Nov-17-11  SimonWebbsTiger: @<DrMal>

you are absolutely correct on openings. is vital for eg. Carlsen if he hopes to beat Kramnik. Prep is such a vital part of the GM game because the opponent is a maestro of the game too.

At our humble, patzer, level, games go through all evaluations before the last person makes the mistake resulting in the loss! None of us master the erudition, thinking skills of the GM and nor do we possess their talent. The upshot is loads of openings are playable at our amateur level, even completely unsound ones!

Nov-17-11  DrMAL: <SimonWebbsTiger: @<DrMal> At our humble, patzer, level, games go through all evaluations before the last person makes the mistake resulting in the loss! None of us master the erudition, thinking skills of the GM and nor do we possess their talent. The upshot is loads of openings are playable at our amateur level, even completely unsound ones!> This is not unsound opening I would not promote such a thing, and I am not sure who you are referring to about amateur play. I play GMs and IMs all the time, CG has very poor record of my games but you are welcome to look at example of one in Y Shulman vs A Kretchetov, 2010. I have not asked for your identity or rating, I do not care about either, but if you use "we" and "patzer" or "amateur" please do not refer post to me, thanx.
Nov-17-11  SimonWebbsTiger: Blimey, <DrMal>, I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

I hope you noted the humour and humility in that post. I am not in the same league as Carlsen or Kramnik. It is quite clear, now you have outed yourself (not that you needed to anyway) that you are not in the same league as them either.

Only FF thinks he is. Why else would he be bitter at losing to Nakamura!

Take a chill pill, as they say, DrMal. I've always got on OK with you and the other one too.

Nov-17-11  DrMAL: Sorry <SWT> I did not understand humor in your post, I sometimes have difficulty with English as I wrote. Anyway, I am happy to kibitz with you, you always seem to have good information I have learned things from you, much more than I can say about FF, he is only person on site that I wish would disappear! Thanx for fun I look forward to more, cheers.
Nov-17-11  DrMAL: <SWT> I was thinking about this and difficulty original DrMAL had, I think it is same problem: AJ syndrome. People on here usually treat others with respect, as anonymous user before I did not feel need to tell rating. High level players are not rating snob only bad AJ-type players are and this is rare. Site is about enjoying games and sharing information together, and AJ syndrome is only big hindrance so I hope it stays confined to basically one idiot. It has been fun with you and <qqdos> among many others kibitzing, you are both clearly good players, rating neither proves or disproves this, cheers.
Nov-18-11  DrMAL: BTW <SWT> since you have good taste for sharp openings I'm sure you will appreciate look (or maybe re-look) at Nh6-f5 plan in Dragon against Maróczy bind as in G Ilivitsky vs Keres, 1955 and G Iliwitzki vs Keres, 1955. It is risky but sound, of course like Velimirovic strong player today knows how to deal with it (e.g., Tal vs Kupreichik, 1970), often favorable position for white with bishops advantage gets reached. Depends on how well black can keep disrupting and how well white has both knowledge and nerve. Young Russian IM Nikolai Shukh played it twice recently (last time in Russian Championships A Lastin vs N Shukh, 2011 with bad luck) it is still good surprise weapon. Perhaps most beautiful win is transposition into it during Russian Championship Furman vs Spassky, 1957. Apparently, Furman thought he could survive with 23.Rf2 but Spassky's next move blew him away, cheers.
Nov-18-11  SimonWebbsTiger: I've never played that ...Nh6/...f5 line or studied it much since being put off it by Vladimir Zak way back in the 1980s. He remarked it was a difficult line despite Spassky's attraction to it.
Nov-18-11  DrMAL: Hmmm, well, I'm not sure what he meant back then, but it is good, sharp line, why I suggested looking at it, cheers.
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  Phony Benoni: A tribute to the late Dragoljub Velimirovic, who passed away yesterday.
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  offramp: He died before he got old.
May-24-14  The Last Straw: Nice attacking game. Sad to have such a strong player die. RIP GM Velimirovic.
May-24-14  nalinw: Yes - RIP. He was one of the attacking players I heard about when first into chess in the mid '70s.

And good quote from the song PB!

What about "why don't you all fffff...ade away"?

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  morfishine: A very impressionable game despite Black erring with 16...O-O? when 16...Bb7 was clearer better
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  kevin86: The king is chased into the interstate where two trucks (rooks) await him.
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  kevin86: RIP: Dragoljub- how sad :(
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  offramp: <nalinw:... Good quote from the song PB!>

Yes! That was a good one PB!

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  HeMateMe: Great pun! Is this the windmill variation?
May-24-14  Howard: Probably the only game of Velimirovic's I ever played over was his crush of Ljubojevic (sp) at the 1972 Yugoslavian championship. The game followed Spassky-Fischer, 15th game, 1972 (including Spassky's novelty around the 10th move) for the first 11-12 moves before it deviated.

After only about 25 moves, Velimirovic had a won game.

Certainly didn't know he'd just died.

May-24-14  belgradegambit: When I saw this game as today's GOTD I did a double take. This was the first game I ever submitted a pun for to Chessgames and was a GOTD in 2009. Then when I saw why it was reprised I was very sad. RIP to a great attacking player.
May-24-14  mathlover: Wt happens if 20......Kh8
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  offramp: < nalinw:... And good quote from the song PB!>

Yah! He really nailed it down!

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