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|Jul-29-04|| ||Gypsy: Well, I did not think the first two moves were all that easy either, though I did get them. The question afterwards was how to get out of the pin that was bound to come. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||cjhasbrouck: I was completely mystified by this puzzle.
I didn't realize White's knight was pinned to the queen... otherwise I probably would have gotten it.
I'm a beginner. :)
|Jul-29-04|| ||cjhasbrouck: On a side note, it's truly amazing how Shabalov can beat Aramil so easily.|
Aramil is a Chess God as far as my skill level is concerned, but Shabalov makes minced meat of him...
|Jul-29-04|| ||icancount2one: Seems to me that white made two key mistakes. First of all, 25. Bc1? Where white allows the exchange preventing the pin. In my opinion 25. Bxa7 is better, because it allows the bishop to help protect against a nasty attack on F2|
After that, the final move of 29. Qe3 is misguided. Black sought a queen exchange to simplify and avoid a mating attack, but missed that his rook was under fire.
Rxd3 gives back the exchange, and prepares Qe3. If white then plays Qxe2 +, white can avoid mate, and even win another piece with Qxb7 forking knight and bishop.
|Jul-29-04|| ||greystar69: Equally critical to this position is the black knight on e7 which defends c8. Otherwise white could have continued:
28. Red1 Qb6
29. Rc8+ Kh7
30. Rxd3 Bxd3
Which is about even. Note that the threat on f2 is alleviated by the white queen which pins the black rook on f5.
|Jul-29-04|| ||DexterGordon: <icancount2one>, yes, 29.Rxd3 does seem better than 29.Qe3. But after |
...the queens come off and Black should win.
|Jul-29-04|| ||Gypsy: These material-gain combos remain me of the good-old-days of computing with a slide-rule. Besides the noble part of finding the moves and seeing their sequences right, there is this anoying and disruptive little side-thing of keeping score. (Ok, I was -2, and now we have +R -N -P ...) I must admit that, being a lazy bum, I sometimes just wing it, just to be unplesantly suprised when the dust settles down after my combination.|
Keeping the score it clearly indispensible, but it interferes with the mental processas none the less. Does anyone has a usuful technique for minizing the interuptive effects? Does everyone keep score as-you-go, or do you evaluate at-the-end, or do you wing-it, or ...?
|Jul-29-04|| ||white pawn: Hoo-humm... Didn't get today's puzzle :'(. But after seeing the solution, it's so obvious!(duh) I guess I should have given myself more time. I only looked at it for a few minutes. I don't know if I'm supposed to look for forced mates, or what. I think the puzzle should tell you what KIND of puzzle it is, or would that make it too easy, ya think? How long do you guys look at a puzzle before you look at the solution? Some times, if I'm stuck, I'll look at the first move that starts the whole thing, and try and get it from there. It's a lot easier, but it's still an exercise. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||trguitar: 29. Qe3 is the right idea, but it came too late. I think white may have been able to save himself with 27. Qe3. This allows him to block a later ... Qb6.|
If 27. ... Nxd3, then 28. Red1 Qb6 29. Qxb6 axb6 30. Rc7 Nc6 31. Bb1 Ncxe5 32. Rc3 Nxb2 33. Rd8+ Kh7 34. Bxf5+ exf5 35. Rc7
If 27. ... Qxd3, then 28. Bb1 Qxe3 29. fxe3 Nd3 30. Bxd3 Bxd3 31. Rc7 Nd5 32. Rxb7 Rxe5 33. Rd7 f6 34. Kf2 a5 35. Kg3
Still uphill for white, but at least he's not throwing in the towel with 27. Qe4?
|Jul-29-04|| ||kevin86: I got it-but didn't get it;I did find the first two moves,but out of lazyness,didn't go farther. The next moves are very neat-involving a fork,several pins,and a partridge in a pear tree (or a pair of trees) lol. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||miamihurricane: It was a treat seeing Shabalov crush William Aramil.I look forward to seeing William come back for a revenge match.Will Shabalov continue to outfox William tactically?I told William that he had to improve on his tactics. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||nikolaas: I think this combination is easy to find if you know that there exists a combination. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||patzer2: Today's solution of 25...Rxc1! involves using "deflection" to set up a winning "pin" with 25...Nf4! It also involves a rather unique twist in defending against a counter pin (28...Rcd1) with a more powerful counter threat in 28...Qb6 (e.g. 29. Rxd3 Bxd3 30. Qxd3 Qxf7+ 31. Kh7 Qxe1 ). The Knight Fork also plays a role in the combination as well as assessing the value of a Knight and Bishop as being worth more than a Rook in this position. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||chessdr: <trguitar>, after 27. Qe3 Nxd3 28. (either) Rd1, try 28. ... Nd5. If the queen moves, NxR. If 29. Bxd5 NxR, and the bishop on d5 is pinned against the rook on d1. After 30. RxN exd5, white is down a piece. This is without a board, hope it works. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||trguitar: <chessdr>, if 28. ... Nd5, then not 29. Bxd5, but 29. Rxd3! Bxd3 30. Qxd3 Rxe5 31. b4 Rg5|
and if 29. Bxd5 NxR 30. RxN exd5, then 31. Rxd3! Bxd3 32. Qxd3 Rxe5 33. Qd4 Qe8 34. g4
My version of Crafty gives both of these positions about 1-pawn advantage for black.
Basically, I think 27. Qe3 could have really complicated things for black.
|Jul-29-04|| ||hollowone: Indeed, my analysis bears <trquitar>'s observation out. 27. Qe3 was the superior move over the text, and while Black is still winning afterwards, the advantage is not nearly as pronounced. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||dac1990: I'd have to rate this combination between spectacular and marvelous. Therfore, it must be marvtacular. Or spectaculous. I like spectaculous a bit better. |
|Jul-29-04|| ||BenkoGambit64: After 29.Rxd3 Bxd3 30.Qxd3 black has: Rxf2 31.Kh1 Qxb2 32. Qd8+ Kh7 32.Qxe7 Rxg2 and white cant stop mate. I'll be back with more I gotta go now they are kicking me out of the school lab. |
|Jul-30-04|| ||alexandrovm: 25. ...RxBc1 26. RxR Nf4; then I don't know what can white can response to that, but it looks like here black already has a winning position. |
|Jul-30-04|| ||chessdr: <trguitar>, that looks right, well done. |
|Aug-02-04|| ||Chathurang1: Great tactics. this membership is a great deal for money. Do many of you use the ending and opening explorer |
|Aug-02-04|| ||Lawrence: <Chathurang1>, greetings, welcome, and best wishes. I use the Opening Explorer all the time. |
|Jul-28-05|| ||TeykoXL: William is my boy, and I think that with time as all else, he will learn from this and come back fighting. I mean even though he lost, he made some interesting choices and had some forsight about the position. You can't win them all.|
|Jul-28-05|| ||tpstar: <TeykoXL> Hello! Welcome to the group! Your son played a very nice game against a tough opponent, and so this combination was chosen by the site as a Daily Puzzle last year. That's why there are so many (hypercritical) comments above. Surely he will continue to improve. Note the post by <miamihurricane> whom you might know. See you around.|
|Nov-12-05|| ||miamihurricane: Shabalov plays awesome games and is not afraid to play exciting,dynamic chess.I enjoy looking at his games against Hikaru.It is a blow for blow action packed games.|
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