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|Oct-09-04|| ||tpstar: <briiian13> In the Ruy Lopez Exchange, Black's compensation for doubled c Pawns is the Two Bishops which greatly help offset such a static weakness in Pawn formation. 9 ... Bxe6!? would be positionally suspect because it saddles Black with a bad Bishop plus it allows White's QN a great outpost at d5, although these factors may not be decisive in themselves. If anything, Black would rather exchange dark square Bishops leaving (good) Bishop versus Knight during the middlegame and endgame. In this case, the experienced GM was undoubtedly playing to win against his 11 year-old student. |
|Jan-26-05|| ||Abaduba: He may be Kasparov, and it may have been a simul, but the idea of an 11 year old kid beating a GM- let alone a legend like Averbakh- blows my mind. |
|Mar-12-05|| ||Orbitkind: Kasparov seems to create lots of complications and emerges a pawn ahead. I've looked at one of Kasparov's recent simuls and it seems the GM usually tries to play positionally and to outclass their opponent that way. This game was very tactical though, and Kasparov won it. |
|Mar-12-05|| ||RookFile: I don't think ...Bxc4 quite
equalizes for black because white
still has the better dark squared
|Jul-06-05|| ||calman543: Aren't the GMs supposed to play white in a simul?|
|Aug-04-05|| ||sitzkrieg: Hehe i was just wondering about the same thing:)|
|Sep-21-05|| ||shortsight: <calman543, sitzkrieg> Are you guys trying to hint that Kaspy at 11 was giving simul to GMs since he's playing white? :)|
|Sep-21-05|| ||sitzkrieg: Yup but i was just kidding.|
|Sep-22-05|| ||shortsight: <sitzkrieg> Yeah, don't worry, I certainly can afford to take some kidding :)|
|Oct-28-05|| ||alexandrovm: <Abaduba: He may be Kasparov, and it may have been a simul, but the idea of an 11 year old kid beating a GM- let alone a legend like Averbakh- blows my mind.> I could not agree more...|
|Oct-28-05|| ||keypusher: Curiously, Tal's first win against a GM also came against Averbakh.|
Tal vs Averbakh, 1954
|Jul-15-06|| ||MagnaPsygnosis: <keypusher>
I get a point here... but this does not mean that Averbakh is a weaker GM.
There are many a IM that would drill many a GM.
Besides neither Tal nor Kasparov is to be messed with.
|Jul-16-07|| ||myteacher34: this game must be draw!
if you leave the positions to chessmaster(computer), you can see easily draw by repetition.
|Aug-21-07|| ||laskereshevsky: <..Curiously, Tal's first win against a GM also came against Averbakh...>|
Looks like AVERBACH had had same fear's problems facing young talents
Averbakh vs Fischer, 1958
|Jan-05-08|| ||DanLanglois: 12...Bxc4?|
|Apr-26-09|| ||laskereshevsky: A little of History.....
This was a part of a teams match Played every year in Moscow, called "The Pioneers's(schoolboys) palaces final tournament.
There were 3 "under sectiones"... The "Pioneers" tournament, the "Captains" Tournament and the mixed one (Pioneers-Captains)
Every team was composed by a "Captain" ( a Gm or a master who in his younghood was a pupil in the same Pioneers Palaces team), 6 boys and 1 girl (The Pioneers)...
Every evening, the guys were playing a clock simul against one of the others teams captain.. theyre own captain was doing the same with the other team's guys.
The list of that tournament's teams with the Captain's name:
LENINGRAD GM Tajmanov M.
(Who, evidently, at the time was forgived (!) and no more ostracized by the commies autority, for his "anti-patriotic" Vancouver's 1971 0-6 defeat in the quarter final World championship vs, Fischer...)
MOSCOW GM Averbach J.
CERNOVZI GM Kuzmin G.
RIGA ex world-champ GM Tal M.
CELIABINSK GM Polugaevskij L.
In the Kasparov's BAKU team the Captain was IM Bagirov V.
.....every round were 6 clock-simuls betw. a master and 7 childs for a total of 42 games...with a total of 30 simuls for 210 games in 5 rounds...
The Masters won for 166.5-43.5 with th score of: +142 =49 -19...
They won every simul with the exception of
1 lost in: Averbach J.- Leningrad 2.5-4.5,
and 1 draw in: Bagirov V.-Moscow 3.5-3.5...
Garry was drawed in second board, with th ach. of 1.5 on 5... 1 point with victory with Averbach, but i dntknw the draw name's opponent...
Its a very pitty that nowadays the young players around the world dont have NOTHING like this to enjoy the team spirit fraternity, and such a great experience of play VS. the masters, Including the study of Positions/lines with your own "Captain"...
|Aug-23-09|| ||Helios727: The game was adjourned in the final position. Averbakh thought he had achieved a draw. The chief Arbiter, Kotov, ruled it a draw. Kasparov appealed, claiming that the following line would give him a gradual win - 49. f6 gxf6 50. Qxf6+ Ka7 51. Qf5. As a result, Kasparov was awarded a win. Personally I don't see how white can weasel out of the coming perpetual checks.|
|Aug-23-09|| ||Eisenheim: I think if you follow Kasp's line, black can get maybe 2-3 checks, but not stop the promotion of the g pawn. 51 Qf5 Qh1+ 52 Kg5 Qc1+, 53 Kg6 and the pawn advances and shields|
|Aug-23-09|| ||computer chess guy: A better line for Black from the final position appears to be 49. f6 ♕h1+ 50. ♔g3 gxf6 51. ♕xf6 ♔a5. Rybka scores this = at depth 18.|
|Aug-23-09|| ||Helios727: <Eisenheim>, I was thinking more in terms of 51 Qf5 Qe1+ 52 Kg5 Qe3+ 53 Kg6 Qf8+ 54 Qf7 Qe4+ etc.|
|Aug-23-09|| ||Eisenheim: Helios - I see your point, but white still can slither forward with accurate play. I don't use computer analysis, but maybe someone can come with the eval? your original point however is very valid considering that theres no reason the appeal should just have accepted kasp's line. I played the 51 ...Qe5+ 52 Kh5 Qe8+, 53 Qg6 Qh8+, 54 Qh6 Qe5+, 55 g5 Qh2+ 56 Kg6 and the pawn advances. this was super quick by me though and I've been on this thing for almost a year and still dont know how to properly reply to someone so what the heck do I know!|
|Aug-23-09|| ||Helios727: I had Rybka 2.2 play against itself and white won. So it looks like Kasparov may have earned the win.|
|Nov-05-09|| ||WhiteRook48: is it 40 f6?|
|Oct-10-13|| ||MrJafari: I wonder why Black played 48 and then resigned?!|
|Oct-11-13|| ||Khapablanca: Maybe becouse you haven't read any of the coments yet...|
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