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Graham Burgess vs William Nicholas Watson
"Billy the KID" (game of the day Jun-25-08)
? 1989  ·  King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Classical System Neo-Classsical Line (E98)  ·  0-1
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Jul-27-04  aw1988: First to kibitz! qg3 rg3 (only move) fg3 mate. Gotten monday and tuesday with no comp help so far :)
Jul-27-04  John Doe: I tried literally everything before the simple Qg3... I'm so angry with myself >:-(
Jul-27-04  Elrathia Kingi: Lucky thing for him it was mate; he was about to lose his queen.
Jul-27-04  misguidedaggression: <john doe> I know I couldn't find anything better than Qxg1 winning the exchange so I read a few other pages and when I came back to it half an hour later it was obvious. :P (also it gave me time to sober up a little.)
Jul-27-04  Calculoso: I occasionally do things like Watson (i.e. "gain open file by attacking the queen") and automatically assume the queen will give up her file. Much to Watson's chagrin, the queen had a much better move.
Jul-27-04
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  cu8sfan: I can't believe I didn't get this one... I knew it would have to be fairly easy as it's only Tuesday but I was blind...
Jul-27-04  greystar69: The thing I find chucklesome about this position is the move 38... Ne2 where the black knight forks all 3 of white's major pieces as well as controlling two squares next to the enemy King. Not quite a "family check", but pretty just the same!
Jul-27-04  cjhasbrouck: 38... Qxg1
39. Qxg1 Nxg1
40. Kxg1

Doesn't that also lead to a victory for black, eventually? :)

Jul-27-04  artemis: <cjhasbrouck>: Yes, that would lead to a fairly easy victory for black, as white only has a single pawn in compensation for the exchange. Best continuation appears to be. 40. ... Rg7+ 41. Kf1 Rdd7 etc. with black calmly occuping the open files.
Jul-27-04  Tazzak: Is it just me or does it seem that white probably fell out of his chair when Black announced Checkmate? It looks like that snuck up on him.
Jul-27-04  greystar69: I also wondered that Tazzak, since checkmate is quite unusual. But you will notice that mate comes on move 39, just before the time control at move 40, so it is possible that white was under too much time pressure to consider the consequences of a final move which was forced anyway.
Jul-27-04  PieceOffer: Doesn't this work:
38...Ng2 (threat Qg3 mate).
If 39. Bxg2 Qg3+ 40. Kh1 Rxh3+ 41. Bxh3 Qxh3 mate
If 39. Rxg2 Rxh3+ 40. Kxh3 Qh5 mate.
Doing this without a board, so Im hoping I didn't make any errors.
Jul-27-04
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  patzer2: This week's theme seems to be deflection followed by mate.
Jul-27-04  EyesofBlue: I missed this one too.... aaaaggggg!!!
Jul-27-04  sanferrera: <PieceOffer> 38... Ng2 39.Rxg2 Rxh3 40.Nxh3
Jul-27-04  zb2cr: It took me about two minutes to find this. Lucky I wasn't Watson--if in time trouble, I'd be in sad shape!
Jul-27-04
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  kevin86: Boy did I drop this can o' corn! I was looking for a grimshaw at g2-then i gave up when i saw the other rook guarding f3.How could I have missed the crucial square at g3,instead of g2-DUMKopf!!
Jul-27-04
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  notyetagm: The key to this problem is to realize that when you are trying to mate the enemy king you are actually trying to <trap> him.

Where can the White king go in this position? The h3 and h1 squares are self-blocks and the two Black knights (on h4 and e2) cover the g-file. So the White king is <stalemated> as long as Black does not move either of his knights nor allow or force White to move the h3 pawn or h1 bishop.

OK, where can we give check, ie, what are our <focal points>? From a sacrificial viewpoint g2 and g3 look tempting. A queen check on g2 would allow the h1 bishop to move (... Qg2+ BxQ), creating luft for the White king, not good. But the g3 square is en prise (3 attackers, 2 defenders) and a queen check on g3 would have to be met by Rxg3, which does <not> create luft for the enemy king and results in a beautiful forced <pure> checkmate (... Qg3+! Rxg3 fxg3#).

It's amazing how often players miss <mates by knight pawns when their king is trapped on the rook file>. I have noticed this theme in many problems that I have had trouble solving (eg, a composition by Adolf Anderssen). You're just not expecting some lowly pawn to walk up and deliver mate. This one, however, I did not miss.

Jul-27-04  alexandrovm: I didn't figure out this one, and the move was so simple. I was in a hurry anyway
Jul-27-04  minimaxing: This isn't related to Burgess-
Watson, albeit a nice finish.

Where do intermediate-level players post to get general advice on improving? And do any of you know how reliable the Yahoo chess ratings are? Do they approximate your true rating well?

Jul-27-04  hickchess99: my experience with yahoo is that my yahoo rating is about 100 points lower than my uscf rating.
Jul-27-04  minimaxing: That sounds good to me, hickchess. What is your yahoo rating? I have a feeling there is some bias towards 1200, and probably more extreme the further one deviates from the mean.

There is something about these puzzles I don't understand. Why do people rush to be the first to answer the puzzle, when the solution is found in the game itself?

Jul-27-04  BluE DicE: I knew this reminded me of an old Blackburne game for some reason ;).
Jul-27-04  alexandrovm: My Yahoo rating is 1400, but I don't play there regulary. People like to answer puzzles because it's fun.
Jul-27-04
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  Sneaky: Wow, the theory runs really deep on this opening: look at Games Like G Burgess vs W Watson, 1989
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