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Richard Reti vs Gyula Breyer
"Let the Breyer Beware" (game of the day May-17-2013)
Debrecen (1913), Debrecen AUH, rd 1, Jul-07
French Defense: Classical. Normal Variation (C13)  ·  1-0
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May-17-13
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  gawain: "Breyer? Beware!" would have been apt--if only he had found the resource 22...Qe5.
May-17-13  Everett: <Gawain> Thank you for your effort. Much appreciated. I guess it is possible that Breyer did not see your last mate when considering 22.. Qe5 23.Qh6 or your first line if Reti responded 23.Rxg7

What about <22..Qe5 23.Rxg7+ Kf8 24. Rxf7+ Kxf7> and White cant seem to organize a mating attack despite the three pieces. The Qe5 is perfect in attack and defense.

May-02-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Since black is threatening to force the trade of queens with Qe1+, I saw the only real attack was 24. Rxg7+ Qxg7 25. Qxe6+ Qf7 and white can "win" the queen (for 2 rooks) with Rh7+, but it's anything but clear. As shown by the above kibbitzing it's really more of a Sunday puzzle if black plays the best moves.
May-02-18
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  lost in space: Got it.

24. Rxg7 Qxg7 25. Qxe6+

A: 25...Qf7 26. Rh8+ Kxh8 27. Qxf7 and White has a mate attack - beside material advantage - and should therfore be able to win

B: 25...Kf8 26. Qf5+ Ke8 (26...Ke7 27. Rh7) 27. Qd6+ Ke8 28. Bg6+ and 1:0

May-02-18  landshark: Looking at this position, as White I was fighting for a draw - and the main line was obvious and I played 24. Rxg7+ Qxg7 25. Qxe6+ Qf7 26. Rh8+ Kxh8 27. Qxf7 Nc3 before opting for 28. Qxf5 at which point I felt I held winning chances. Missed the beautiful finesse 28. Qf6+! That was artistic.
May-02-18
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  agb2002: White has a bishop and a pawn for a knight.

Black threatens Qa1+ followed by Qxg1, and Rxd3.

The black queen is overburdened with the defense of e6 and g7. Therefore, 24.Rxg7+ Qxg7 (24... Kf8 25.Qh8#) 25.Qxe6+:

A) 25... Kf8 26.Qxf5+

A.1) 26... Ke7 27.Rh7 + - [Q+B+4P vs 2r+n].

A.2) 26... Ke8 27.Re4+ Qe7 28.Bb5+ Rd7 29.Qxd7+ Kf8 30.Qxe7+ is a massacre.

A.3) 26... Kg8 27.Qe6+ Qf7 (27... Kf8 28.Rf4+ Qf7 29.Qxf7#) 28.Rh8+ Kxh8 (28... Kg7 29.Rh7+ and 30.Qxf7#) 29.Qxf7 + - [Q+B+4P vs 2r+n] (29... Rxd3? 30.Qf6+ followed by 31.Qe6+ or 31.Qf5+ and 32.Qxc8).

A.4) 26... Qf7 27.Rh8+ Ke7 (27... Kg7 28.Rh7+ and 29.Qxf7#) 28.Rh7 + - [Q+B+4P vs 2r+n].

B) 25... Qf7 26.Rh8+ as in A.3.

May-02-18  saturn2: I saw the game continuation.
For the alternative 25..Kf8 I choose 26 Qxf5+
May-02-18  Steve.Patzer: I got it through to 27.Qxf7 and figured I could win from there.
May-02-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  gofer: A nice POTD...

24 Rxg7+ Qxg7
25 Qxe6+ Qf7 (Kf8? Qxf5+ +-)
26 Rh8+ Kxh8
27 Qxf7 +-

May-02-18  stacase: Since it's a puzzle, White needs to say "Check" and by process of elimination, 24.Rxg7+ is the best way to do it. The following moves are much easier to figure out.
May-02-18  Mayankk: I got through to 27. Qxf7 as well. I should have also spotted that my Bishop is en prise on next move and the only reason it doesn’t work is because once the Rooks get separated, one of them can be gobbled up by white Queen after forking Black’s Rook and King.

Nice educational puzzle on forking powers of Queen against unguarded pieces.

May-02-18  leRevenant: Dug deep & got it; rarity for a Wednesday.
May-02-18
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  Lambda: I was happy once I'd calculated that white always wins at least the queen, e-and g-pawns for the two rooks, and black can never take the d3 bishop at the end. Queen and three pawns vs. two rooks, with the f5 pawn looking doomed as well and the black king totally exposed can be assumed a win.
May-02-18
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  diagonalley: hard for a wednesday
May-02-18
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  malt: Black threatens ...R:c2+ K:c2 Qc3+

24.R:g7+ Q:g7 25.Q:e6+ Kf8
(25...Qf7 26.Rh8+ )
26.Q:f5+ Ke8
(26...Ke7 27.Rh7 Q:h7 28.Q:h7+ )
(26...Kg8 28.Rg4 wins )
27.Re4+ Qe7 28.Bb5+ Rd7 29.Q:d7+

<gofer:> A nice POTD

May-02-18  zb2cr: Missed this one.
May-02-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  WorstPlayerEver: The hardest part was: 24. Rxg7+ Qxg7 25. Qxe6+ Kf8 26. Qxf5+ Ke8 27. Re4+
May-02-18  mel gibson: I didn't see that.

Stockfish 9 says:

24. Rxg7+

(24. Rxg7+
(♖g1xg7+ ♕e5xg7 ♕h6xe6+ ♔g8-f8 ♕e6xf5+ ♔f8-e7 ♖h4-h7 ♕g7xh7 ♕f5xh7+ ♔e7-d6 ♕h7xa7 ♘a4-c3 ♕a7xb6+ ♔d6-e7 ♕b6-e3+ ♔e7-f7 ♕e3-f4+ ♔f7-e8 ♗d3-g6+ ♔e8-d7 ♕f4-f6 ♘c3xa2+ ♔c1-b2 ♘a2xb4 ♗g6-f5+ ♔d7-c7 ♕f6-e7+ ♔c7-c6 ♗f5xc8 ♖d8xc8 ♕e7xb4 ♔c6-c7 ♕b4-c5+ ♔c7-b7 ♕c5-b5+ ♔b7-c7 ♕b5-e5+ ♔c7-c6 ♕e5-e6+ ♔c6-b7 ♕e6-d5+ ♔b7-b6 ♕d5-b3+ ♔b6-c7 ♕b3-c4+ ♔c7-b7 ♕c4-e4+ ♖c8-c6 c2-c3 ♔b7-b6 ♕e4-e7 ♖c6-c7) +8.88/34 149)

score for White +8.88 depth 34

May-02-18
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  takchess: Saw the first 5 moves which for this easy grader counts as a success. Spent some time looking at 1 qh7+ as well. 3 for 3 bring on Thursday.
May-02-18
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  cormier: 1) -6.13 (31 ply) 22...Qe5 23.Rxg7+ Kf8 24.Rxf7+ Kxf7 25.Qf4+ Qxf4+ 26.Rxf4+ Ke7 27.Bc4 Nc3 28.Rh4 Rd1+ 29.Kb2 Nd5 30.Re4 Kd6 31.f4 Rd2 32.f3 Rxh2 33.f5 e5 34.a3 Rh3 35.Ba6 Rc7 36.Re2 Nf4 37.Re3 Rh2 38.Bd3 Nxd3+ 39.Rxd3+ Ke7 40.Rc3 Rxc3 41.Kxc3 Kf6 42.Kd3 Kxf5 43.c4 Ra2 44.c5 bxc5 45.bxc5 Rxa3+ 46.Ke2

5.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 9

May-02-18
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  cormier: May-17-13
Premium Chessgames Member gawain: <Everett> Answer: dangerous only for White! If 22...Qe5 23 Qh6 Black replies 23...Rxc2+

diagram

24 Bxc2 Qb2# (or 24 Kd1 Qe2#, or Kb1 Qb2#)

or (all forced)

24. Kxc2 Qb2+
25. Kd1 Nc3+
26. Ke1 Qb1+ and mate next move!

diagram

27 Qc1 Qxc1# or, spectacularly

27 Bxb1 Rd1#

Would this have won a brilliancy prize for Breyer?

May-02-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  chrisowen: Jewels keeins keyins rg7us glibhung tinks qg7us guildins lunks qe6us effects qf7us flungins keyins to it flunk 25...Kf8 keyin finds clunger keens lunksus fluidins 5 buildins winus lunksus rh8us harangues kh8us hunklinks to it flunkin 27.Qxf7 keyin finds jastha fluidins 7 buildins winus keyin jewels keyon lewis quandry quagmire keyon dipus links piddle blips hibiscus bottom keyin hotus blush keyin oatus funny yinus murks cluck reviz it's vasts wayus menus thumped it's vasts dinks inara yetus mends think keyin pudus wayon metus pents hudus yowus amens hutus plodus rg7us glibhung keyin keyus jewels keyon lewis justs keyin quandry quagmire keyon links gelds dipus piddle bidus dibus blips blush throb hotus thoughts oatus funny yinus murks cluck reviz it's vasts wayus menus thumped it's vasts dinks inara yetus mends keyin lunks to it gore 24.Rxg7+ keyins ginus keyin iffyus guildins 5 buildins winus fluid finish films flint frills initial keyas keyin lunkus rg7us glibhung tinks lunkus guildins guffyins glugsins keynub gulchins gulllimp gummybud gunslink guppyins gridhunt keyins initial keyas keyins glinthug flung figus figures:

glugs gigus guffs gifts figgy glugs gigus bungs bigus bulks blink lunks to it gore:

24...Qxg7 25.Qxe6+ keyins ginus keyin jobus effects lunks to it flunk 25...Qf7 keyin finds clung ebbus lunkus flungins keyin lunks to it flunk 25...Kf8 keyin finds lunksus clunger fluidins 5 buildins winus lunks to it hungum 26.Rh8+ keyin hints keyus keyas lunksus harangues lunks to it hungum 26...Kxh8 27.Qxf7 keyus jastha fluidins 7 buildins winus glibs grubs keyus rugus barrage exins keyin bigus winch coops keyus keyin buddy rumus keynub fluids hugin keyin bigus gibus initial keyin glibs hibiscus clubs cribs clucky keyin cinch diffy ebony ebbus umsus faith hints ebbus fluff keyas garcon keyin jewels rg7us guildins:

May-02-18
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  Jimfromprovidence: The continuation 27...Rxd3 below does not work either.


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28 Qf6+ Kg8 (if 28...Kh7 29 Qxf5+) 29 Qe6+ then wins.


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May-02-18  NBZ: Oh dear. I went for a perpetual with Qh8+ Kf7 Qh5+, and was quite happy with this, since Black is threatening a mating attack beginning with Qa1+.
May-02-18  jinkinson: I saw Rxg7+ Qxg7+ Qxe6+ but dismissed it b/c I thought that after ...Kf8 White doesn't have a win... I guess not, it's just harder than I'd expected since this is only a Wed. problem.
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