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Fyodor Ivanovich Dus Chotimirsky vs Georg Salwe
"God Salwe the Queen" (game of the day Apr-02-2015)
3rd Russian National Tournament (1903), Kiev RUE, rd 2, Sep-??
Spanish Game: Open Variations. Main Lines (C80)  ·  0-1
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Dec-21-13  Nick46: Georg Salweges victory against mammoth name.
Dec-21-13
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  Penguincw: As soon as I saw the queen attacked, I knew the queen was going to sacrificed. Not sure how though...
Dec-21-13  RandomVisitor: After 16...Be7, 17.Nxh7 is not best:


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17.Nxe6! fxe6 18.Qe2


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+1.08/22 18...Bf8 19.Ra6 Qd7 20.Bd3 Ne7 21.Be3 Nf5 22.Ba7 Rb7 23.g4 Nh4 24.f4 Ra8 25.Rfa1 Be7 26.Bf2 Rxa6 27.Rxa6 Rb8 28.Ba7 Rb7 29.Bd4 Qe8 30.Rxe6 Qf7

+1.08/22 18....Qd7 19.Bd3 Bf8 20.Ra6 Ne7 21.Be3 Nf5 22.Ba7 Rb7 23.g4 Nh4 24.f4 Ra8 25.Rfa1 Be7 26.Bf2 Rxa6 27.Rxa6 Rb8 28.Ba7 Rb7 29.Bd4 Qe8 30.Rxe6 Qf7

Dec-21-13
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  kevin86: White will lose the queen ...and the game.
Dec-21-13
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  rinkol: rinkol: I saw 23 ... Qxg5, but got sidetracked by 23 ... R-a8 trying to exploit white's weak back rank. I think this still wins, though with more difficulty than the line used in the actual game.
Dec-21-13  Patriot: Material is even and white threatens 24.Bxd8.

After considering 23...d3, 23...Rxe2, and 23...Bxe2, the only thing I'm finding is 23...Qxg5 which actually looks like a reasonable candidate.

23...Qxg5

24.Qxg5 Rxe2 - The bishop is lost or white gets mated.

24.Rxe8 Qxc3

One of my earlier thoughts was 23...f6 24.Qh4+ Kg8 25.Rxe8+ Qxe8 26.Bxf6 d3 and the bishop still seems lost. 23...f6 seems murky compared to 23...Qxg5 but I really don't know which is best. I'll go with 23...Qxg5.

Dec-21-13  mistreaver: Saturday. Black to play. Very difficult. 23...?
I got as much as 3 candidates. And every one of them includes a queen sacrifice: A) First i wanted to play
23... d3
and i thought that after
24 Bxd8 dxe2
25 Re1 Rbxd8
that sacrifice has to be justified.
However after
24 Rxe8 Qxe8
25 Qxd3
i was not that content.
B) The second idea was somewhat different move order:
23... Qxg5
24 Qxg5 Rxe2
And now this bishop doesn't have a square due to
(25 Bd1 Re1 mate)
so 25 Qc1 d3
and i think here black must be winning.
It only remained to check:
24 Rxe8 Qxg3
25 Rxb8 Qd6
but i think that 2 rooks aren't enough for a piece and a queen. Time to check and see.
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Ok, i missed the defence with check and holding the bishop, but i can take the credit for the puzzle i think.
Dec-21-13  LIFE Master AJ: <Morph> I think your analysis was spot-on. A lot of times, in a tournament, you analyze a line that is less than best.

However, no worries, your opponent "helps you" by showing you the best way.

Most of the time, in tournaments, I generally am happy if I can calculate 3 moves ahead. (Except for sharp positions or where there is an extremely forcing line.)

Dec-21-13  green ink: When you see this position on chessgames.com, you immediately begin looking at 23. - Qxg5. At least I did, but I could not see any decisive outcome. In a real game I would probably have played 23. - Qd5 which seems to put black firmly on top.
Dec-21-13  Skiamacher: Like 'rinkol', I chose the second best move, with 23 ... Ra8. Keeping both Queens on the board seemed to me a good idea. The black Q with two well placed bishops, would surely shepherd a Q-side pawn home.
Dec-21-13
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  gofer: It would seem on the face of it that black can exchange its queen for R+2B, which is a pretty fair exchange...

<23 ... Qxg5!?>
<24 Qxg5 Rxe2>

Bc2 has nowhere good to go to and cannot be defended... ...easily...

25 Qc1 d3
26 Bb1 Rbe8

Now this is all conjecture, but it looks okay...

~~~

Okay I got it, but I didn't see the main line. The back rank mate threats are the main thing that make the sacrifice work. The combination of 2R + 2B against R&Q is just too much for white to deal with...

Dec-21-13  James D Flynn: 23..d3 24.Bxd8 dxe2 25.Re1 Rxd8(threat Rd2 and the B is lost )26.f4 (to protect the R on e1 and give the K a flight square) Rd2 27.Bb1 Rd1 28.Bc2 Rxe1+ 29.Qxe1 Bxc3 30.Qxc3 e1=Q+ 31 Qxe1 Rxe1+ 32.Kf2 and Black emerges with R, B, and 4 pawns versus B and 4 pawns,
Dec-21-13  James D Flynn: 23.d3 and if 24.Rxe8 Qxe8 25.Bxd3 Bxc3 26.Rb1 Bxd3 27.Qxd3 Bxb4 and 28.Rxb4 loses to Qe1+ therefore Black has time to protect his B on b4 or retreat it to d6 or f8 and his united passed pawns give him a huge, probably winning, advantage.
Dec-21-13  Kinghunt: Not sure I worked out enough of the lines to give myself full credit, but I did quickly decide that black should probably sac the queen. Black gets a rook and a bishop immediately, with strong initiative due to the attack on the c2 bishop, the far-advanced d pawn, and the weak back rank. In every line I looked at, white had to give up his other bishop for the c-pawn, leaving black with R+B+B for the queen, which is enough to be confident in winning the ending.
Dec-21-13  Patriot: <James D Flynn> Interesting line! I thought 23...d3 24.Bxd8 dxe2 25.f4 may work but Houdini suggests 25.Be7! gives an even game. (25...Rxe7 26.Qh4+ wins)
Oct-02-14
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  FSR: Long Tall Salwe.
Apr-02-15  pedro99: Sadly he never played Bonch-Osmolovski it seems but Konstaninopolsky did!

M Bonch-Osmolovsky vs Konstantinopolsky, 1949

Apr-02-15
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  morfishine: A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories.

After an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse.

"But why?" they asked, as they moved off.

"Because," he said, "I can't stand chess nuts boasting in an open foyer."

*****

Apr-02-15  pedro99: Correction!

http://chesstempo.com/gamedb/game/1...

Apr-02-15
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  Once: Morf - groan! Good one ... I think. ;-)
Apr-02-15
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  Honza Cervenka: If 21...Bxc3?!, then 22.Bxg6+ fxg6 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Qxg6+ Bg7 25.Rxe6
Apr-02-15
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  kevin86: Sadly, black loses the queen...but happily gains 2 bishopsand a rook. Not a bad trade.
Apr-02-15
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  thegoodanarchist: I wouldn't even call this a pun. Salwe in place of save.

Totally LAME

Apr-02-15
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  Karne: Fyodor was one of the leading anarchists in 1903, and purposed a very innocent theory which postulated that the universe and all it's content is fundamentally non-existent, which was rather a very dull claim since he had neither an access to a telescope or had ever casted a glance at the miserable cosmos.
Apr-04-15  kyg16: Glad to see my first GOTD pun :)
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