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Vitaly Chekhover vs Fyodor Ivanovich Dus Chotimirsky
URS-ch sf 1949  ·  King's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Long Variation (A53)  ·  1-0
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Sep-30-04  offramp: Another windmill-effect. Very good!
Sep-30-04  Nickisimo: Yeah, my gut feeling was Qxh8+, and after a minute of quick confirmation, this one was a slam dunk. "If I only had a brain..."
Sep-30-04  erikcu: Another round of the "too easy" kibitzes I am sure; perhaps its just me, but I think the puzzles this week have had aesthetically pleasing endings. Be they are easy or not.
Sep-30-04  mrvocab: How is this the Old Indian? It looks like the King's Indian, fianchetto variation.
Sep-30-04  Rank Amateur: Well, it was easy, cause I don't usually solve it on Thursday. But I always like a windmill. And I did look at a lot of other stuff before throwing away the queen.
Sep-30-04  themindset: 42. to play and win would have been quit tough, tho.
Sep-30-04  themindset: ps - this is not an old indian, it's a King's Indian Fiachetto.
Sep-30-04  themindset: i meant to say 43. to play and win
Sep-30-04  themindset: although fritz finds 45...Qd8, which seems to hold, with a slight edge to white.
Sep-30-04
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  Gypsy: Interposition <46...Qh7> would have been a better defense.

Because of that, the quiet <46.h4>, with subsequent <Re7> and/or <Qg5+>, may be preferable to <46.Qh8>. Black is so tied up that he has no adequate retort.

Sep-30-04  clocked: <Gypsy> 46.h4??
Sep-30-04
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  Willem Wallekers: And another defender bites the dust.
Sep-30-04
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  Benzol: <Gypsy> That's an interesting defence. Does white have a win in the pawn ending after 46...Qh7 47.Qxg8 Qxg8 48.Rxg6+ Qxg6 49.Bxg6 Kxg6?
Sep-30-04
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  Gypsy: < clocked: <Gypsy> 46.h4??> Did I missed something embarasing after h4?

White can get an extra tempo for that pawn endgame <Benzol>; eg, <46.Qxh8+ Qh7 47.Qxh7 Kxh7 48.Rxg6 Rxg6> and, say, <49.Kf3 K~ 50.Bxg6 Kxg6 ...> I do believe it is a win for White.

Sep-30-04
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  Benzol: <Gypsy> Yes, that does seem a better way to do it.
Sep-30-04
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  Benzol: <clocked> Are you suggesting 47.Qf6 keeping black tied up in knots?
Sep-30-04  clocked: 46.Qxh8+ Qh7 47.Qf6 Qd7 (else mate) 48.Qxg6+ Rxg6 49.Rxg6+ Kh7 50.Rxd6+ etc.

want to see a mate? 47... Qg7 48.Qf5 d5 49.g4 hxg4 50.hxg4 Kh7 51.Qh5+ Qh6 52.Re7+ Rg7 53.Bxg6+ Kh8 54.Qxh6+ Kg8 55.Re8#

Sep-30-04
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  Gypsy: Lol, I have a soft spot for pawn endgames <clocked>!

But we a have a bit of a miscom here: I see 46.h4 as the best way to press the White positional dominance (provided I am not missing something tactical, I am geting close to a zombie state). In contrast, after 46.Qxh8 Qh7 some sort of liquidation may realy be in order. One can try 47.Qf6, but after 47...Qg7 I'd probably head for the pawn endgame.

Sep-30-04
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  Willem Wallekers: This discussion on 46 ... Qh7 is silly and pointless. The endgame after 47. Qxh7+ Kxh7 48.Rxd6 is elementary.
Sep-30-04  sandyobrien: too easy for a thursday!!!
Sep-30-04
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  Willem Wallekers: <clocked>
Do you ever play otb chess?
Sep-30-04  SamuelS: If I were a computer, I would play the line suggested by <clocked> (46. Qxh8+ Qh7 47. Qf6! etc), but because it is difficult to calculate ten moves ahead accurately, I would simplify to the pawn endgame, which should give White very good winning chances.
Sep-30-04
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  Willem Wallekers: The pawn endgame is a deadsure win.
Sep-30-04
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  patzer2: While 43. Nxg6!? is interesting, it seems to fizzle out to a drawish ending after <themindset>'s suggestion of 45...Qd8!

Play might continue 45...Qd8! 46. Qf4+ Qg4! 47. Qxg4+ Kxg4 48. f4+! Nxf4 49. gxf4 Kxf4 with good drawing chances for Black.

Sep-30-04  ChessPraxis: I totally agree with Willem.
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