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| Sep-24-04 |
| BadTemper: I dont see how the queen is smothered. Whats the continuation? |
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Sep-24-04
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| Benzol: <BadTemper> 11... b6 12. c4 a6 13.c7 or 12...b5 13.a4 c5 14.e6 |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| BadTemper: P.S. I got a draw today against GM Elsjad Hajiev rating 2560 :) (My rating only 1920) |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| square dance: <badtemper> 11...Qb6 or 11...Qa5 and 12.Nc4. the queen eventually runs out of squares. |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| BadTemper: ah benzol! ty yes i thought 12 nc4! |
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Sep-24-04
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| patzer2: <Squaredance> <BadTemper> What I visualized was 11...Qa5 12. Nc4 Qb5 (12...Qa6 13. Nc7  ) 13. Nc7 Qc5 14. b4 or 11...Qb6 12. Nc4 Qb5 (12...Qa6 13. Nc7 ) 13. Nc7 Qc5 14. b4 . |
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Sep-24-04
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| patzer2: <Bad Temper> A better example of a "smothered Queen" is what would have happened had White played 12. Bxf7+! (following 11...Re8??) in Judit Polgar vs Spassky, 1993. As <Dick Brain> notes, both Polgar and Spassky missed an easier version of this combination in that game. |
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Sep-24-04
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| artemis: <Bad temper> good job! (drawing a gm). The eleven move losses players experience generally come from a lack of preparation in a particular opening. Re8 probably looked pretty good, considering may lines in the Ruy Lopez and the apparent similarities in this position. To the general discussion of insulting and critiquing players: Since we can look through the games, it is quite simple to find a better move. While they should be much better than we are, excluding any gm's who kibitz on this website, we should not insult their abilities, but suggest better moves. If you do insult, you may want to do so in reference to other players. ( I am sure that these players are pretty pathetic in comparison to Kramnik, but in comparison to me they are pretty good.) |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| BadTemper: Thanks for showing me that Polgar-Spassky.
P.S Artemis, alot of these quick losses are due to the players not really considering all moves in early positions, but rather moving by pattern recognition to save clock time. 8 moves into a game my moves stop becoming (semi-)automatic and before I move I always look for winning positional or sacrificial moves. |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| alayo: Any time white posts a bishop on c4 early in the opening (as in many variations of the Sicilian played by no less than Fischer himself; or the Italian game, or as in this game the Bishops opening), the possibility of an "investment" on f7 is always there (note that I said investment - a wise man told me that correct sacrifices are best characterized as investments; i.e. if you cannot calculate far enough to itemize a return on your investment, it probably is an incorrect sacrifice - a loss of a valuable piece). Of course most people look only towards a mating sacrifice, without realizing that a cramped queen is also a good motif for such sacrifices. |
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Sep-24-04
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| kevin86: A very unusual trap of a queen by two knights;the bishop sac is very themetic-it often leads to mate or win of a queen in similar positions. |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| Giancarlo: <patzer2><badtemper>
smuther mate:
Kasparov vs Wahls, 1992 |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| Shah Mat: <artemis> lack of prep was def. an issue here. But even a 1700 rated player should have enough experience against the B's Opening, italian game, and giuoco piano to be able to fend for themselves for a little while. It is basically the first opening beginners learn. That said, I think that Seps should have chosen the French instead =P |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| Stonewaller2: <artemis> Megadittos. Like sports fans, chess fans find it much easier to criticize than to perform at the highest levels. See the discussion about "weak GMs" like Maurice Ashley; plus sign up for the $500,000 guaranteed Global Chess Challenge GM Ashley's organizing for next May. Maybe instead we could talk amongst ourselves about how cute the players are (Monika, send in a snapshot please ;) ) or the general attractiveness of female chessplayers like Maia Chiburdanidze. That being said my preference would be 3. ... c6 . . . |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| Chesspatch: I take my eyes off this website for a few days and you guys are making it into a blood bath. Now, shake hands and look forward to tomorrow's puzzle like docile chess players that we are. Goodness! |
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Sep-24-04
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| patzer2: <Giancarlo> Thanks for the game link. I'm adding it to my discovered check collection. |
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Sep-24-04
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| Gypsy: I rank with those who think this is a finest combination. It has a nice geometry and efficient utilization of piecess. It also utilizes well special features of the position. The combination is easy to moderately hard to compute, but quite sudden and easy to miss in an actual game. If J. Polgar and Spassky both missed (a simple version of) it, anyone can! Perhaps Paehtz was familiar with the earlier game and Seps was not? |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| ThomYorke: I donīt believe that a woman can see a combination like this one. |
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Sep-24-04
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| Gregor Samsa Mendel: <ThomYorke>--<I don't believe that a woman can see a combination like this one> Ehhh???? This combination was played by Elisabeth Paehtz. Check out the photo; looks like a woman to me. |
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| Dec-26-04 |
| russep: She has played some great games. |
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| Jun-15-05 |
| DP12: Before playing Re8 in any opening where the bishop is at c4 aiming, you must check moves like Ng5, Qb3 and Bxf7. In J.Polgar, Spassky what happened was that they were both following known theory and Spassky reversed the moves, while Judit instantly took him at his word. Under the circumstances of this game, where it is likely both players were not in book, I think Polgar or Spassky would take around 1/2 a second to see the line to the end. |
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| Feb-26-06 |
| DeepBlade: <<Gregor Samsa Mendel>: <ThomYorke>--<I don't believe that a woman can see a combination like this one> Ehhh???? This combination was played by Elisabeth Paehtz. Check out the photo; looks like a woman to me.> <My> advise to you; Dont respond to such illogical comments |
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| Feb-26-06 |
| Raskolnikov: <DeepBlade> <My> advise to you: commenting a note made in 2004 makes a lot of sense (Just a joke, donīt be angry, :-) |
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| Feb-26-06 |
| DeepBlade: True but I cant allow him making such comments.
User: ThomYorke hasnt been on Chessgames.com since 2005 so this message wont actually reach him. I say good riddance. |
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| Jul-18-09 |
| tranquil simplicity: Ladies and Gentlemen!- Just to make the comment that we ought to have many more brilliant and great souls like our esteemed STONEWALLER2. I love Stonewaller2's reasoning and humour!! |
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