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|Mar-03-05|| ||vonKrolock: <ArturoRivera>: Of course he was not *THE* Smyslov, born in 1921... <Daddy S.> as <Benzol> informed and <paulalbert> reiterated - so <Old Smyslov> as i said - And it IS an Alekhine-Smyslov anyway, why not |
|Mar-03-05|| ||ArturoRivera: no problem dude, i just tough you thought this was the smyslov |
|Sep-02-05|| ||chessworm: This game was played by Alekhine when he was just starting the carrier. That's why he is more attacking and careless...|
|Oct-08-06|| ||Phony Benoni: This was Alekhine's only loss in the tournament; he tied for first with 8/9, while Smyslov finished far behind. Perhaps Alex took his opponent a bit lightly. In particular, 21.f5 was a bit too much; 21.Qd2 looks OK.|
|Jan-29-14|| ||WCC Editing Project: |
When <Smyslov> won this game, he was only a 1st Category player.
<Alekhine> already had the <Russian National Master> title, awarded for his 1st place finish at the All Russian Amateur (1909) tournament.
Andrew Soltis, "Soviet Chess 1917-1991" (McFarland 1997), p.124
|Jan-29-14|| ||Karpova: <Jess>
This was his father.
|Jan-29-14|| ||john barleycorn: "the" smyslov was born 1921 and at the time of the game no 1st category player, definitely.|
|Jan-29-14|| ||WCC Editing Project: <Karpova>, <JB> lol!|
I'm curious why you might suppose I didn't know that, given that the information I posted came straight out of <Soltis>?
Even Andy's not that sloppy eh? Actually I love his book on Soviet Chess. I wish he would have cited his sources with footnotes though, instead of just listing them for each chapter.
Given that this game page only has a few posts and half of them are about how this is <Vasily Smyslov's> father, I didn't think it necessary to include that information in my post.
I always read every kibbutz, going back from the 1st page, before I post anything, so as not to duplicate information that might already have been posted by another person.
|Jan-29-14|| ||john barleycorn: at least we know why you never post on the <wesley So> page...|
|Jan-29-14|| ||WCC Editing Project: <JB> heh...|
|Jan-29-14|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: What chess world champion was beaten by the father of another world chess champion?|
|Apr-12-14|| ||Domdaniel: <Jess> -- <I always read every kibbutz, going back from the 1st page, before I post anything...>
Me too, most of the time.
If others did likewise, the world would be ... different.
|Apr-23-15|| ||makinavaja: Amazing! Black wins without moving the d-pawn 41 moves! Is there any other game this way lost by a World Chess Champion?|
|May-10-15|| ||alexmagnus: <When <Smyslov> won this game, he was only a 1st Category player.|
<Alekhine> already had the <Russian National Master> title,>
So, two titles difference (between the two there is a Candidate Master title).
By the way, does anybody know when the Russian title and categories system in chess was established? I thought it was a Soviet invention but this game was played earlier, in 1912....
|Jun-29-16|| ||Honza Cervenka: 21.f5 was a blunder leading to loss of material but at that moment black was already fine anyway. AAA had clear advantage from the opening due to black's inaccuracies 12...c6 (12...d6 looks better) and 13...Qe7 (13...Qa7!?), which allowed white to fix black d-Pawn by 14.c5. But he dropped the advantage by playing 18.d4. Instead of that it was better to play 18.Rb1.|
Btw, 22...Ne3 was good enough to win the game, though 23.Qd2!? Nxf1 24.Qxh6 could have made black's task here a bit harder, but much better for black would have been 22...Qe3+ 23.Kh1 Bxe2.
|Dec-26-16|| ||Beholder: <Eduardo Bermudez: What chess world champion was beaten by the father of another world chess champion?>|
Indeed. Pretty sure Kramnik or Anand could beat Henrik Carlsen while blindfolded and giving knight odds.
|May-20-19|| ||LoveThatJoker: 2 Thumbs Up for the punster who submitted this game as a GOTD candidate. LTJ|
|Jun-23-19|| ||Pyrandus: Smyslov senior: Incredible.|
|Jun-23-19|| ||Ironmanth: I like this game! A young Alekhine vs. a player with only ONE game in the chronicles?! Thanks, chessgames. Y'all have a great day.|
|Jun-23-19|| ||erichbf: Capa's father also played, so perhaps this not the only time this had happened. (father of world champion beating a future world champion)|
|Jun-23-19|| ||vajeer: Why not 17.Nd6|
|Jun-23-19|| ||eyalbd: For "father of a world champion beating a future world champion" you have this game too:|
H Carlsen vs Carlsen, 2000
|Jun-23-19|| ||rcs784: I notice this pun is a week late--Fathers' Day was actually last Sunday (at least in the US).|
|Jun-23-19|| ||harrylime: Alekhine would have beat Smyslov Junior 😉|
|Jun-23-19|| ||brankat: He would have beaten Bobby, too.|
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