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Jeroen Piket vs Vladimir Kramnik
Hoogovens Blitz (1999), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 12, Jan-18
Nimzowitsch-Larsen Attack: General (A06)  ·  1-0


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Oct-20-06  Whitehat1963: 50...Ra4?? More 20/200 vision from our current world champion.
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  keypusher: <Whitehat1963> You realize you're making a fool of yourself right now, don't you?
Oct-20-06  Whitehat1963: Yes, I'm just so pissed that he won and that so many people are suggesting that 1. It wasn't even close. 2. Kramnik is all but unbeatable when it matters most. 3. Kramnik never blunders like Topalov or anyone else, that he's a chess god or something.

Basically, Kramnik is currently the first among equals, far from an unbeatable chess god. He's very beatable. O.K., Kasparov didn't beat him in their match, but he lost two to Leko and two to Topalov (and probably should have lost more). Furthermore, I'm not convinced Anand wouldn't beat him in a match if he ever gets the chance to play him.

Yes, I agree, I'm making a fool of myself. I'm just letting off steam. Ignore me. I really mean no harm against anyone here. I'm just pissed.

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  acirce: <so many people are suggesting that (...) Kramnik never blunders like Topalov or anyone else, that he's a chess god or something.> Name one.
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  Honza Cervenka: <acirce> Jim Hacker would have preferred to say: Name six!:-D
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  chancho: <Whitehat1963> You'll get over it eventually. :)
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  acirce: <Honza Cervenka> Who's that?
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  chancho: <acirce>
Oct-20-06  Whitehat1963: Sorry, guys. I will get over it eventually. This is just my twisted way of mourning!
Oct-20-06  RookFile: Is it worth noting that Kramnik in 1999 was not yet world champion?
Oct-20-06  Whitehat1963: Granted. But was 2000 his peak? If so, he should have been nearly at his best. If not, when was his peak?
Oct-20-06  RookFile: What does Hoogovens 5' 1999 mean? That this was a 5 minute game?
Oct-20-06  aw1988: Yes, precisely. That's why this game isn't really worth such absurd arguments. It doesn't prove Piket is stronger (what happened to him? he had some good games)... in a 5 minute blitz game usually the result can go either way.

May-07-15  Zhbugnoimt: In hindsight Anand did beat Kram, and now Carlsen seems like an unbeatable chess god. He is beatable, but harder than Kram was. 72 rating points over #2 is pretty serious.
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