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George Henry Mackenzie vs James Mason
London 1882  ·  Philidor Defense: Exchange Variation (C41)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Dec-09-04
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  akiba82: <Knight13> Mason never said that. Some anonymous person said, "Never miss a check, it might be mate!" Among the well known Mason quotes are: "Every pawn is a potential queen." "Dont make a good move too soon." He also said something about .99 of positions being defensible, but that seems a trifle optimistic.
Feb-17-05  Autoreparaturwerkbau: The 50-move rule was almost the issue here ... After the move #59 there were only 2 captures in next 73 moves: #78 #101
Aug-02-05  who: This game has the largest number of consecutive queen moves. http://www.chess-poster.com/english...
Oct-31-05
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  dakgootje: Lets examine the black king for a moment in this game...wow that king moves a lot...On move 8 and ehm...yeah...hmmm...well..you know...ow you dont know?...i dont know either...

nvm ;-)

Oct-31-05  RookFile: Mason was a strong player. Just playing over the first 60 moves of this game, it has a real Steinitzian
feel to it.
Nov-08-05  Udit Narayan: Wow. In the final position, neither side can make any progress at all.
Feb-05-06  McCool: Should have drawn a while back.
Mar-27-06  Fast Gun: To Who, This has surely got to the record for the most consecutive number of queen moves in one game !! I made it a total of 81 moves, add that to the other 30 moves he made with the queen in the same game (111) this must surely be another record? Incidentally, Irving Chernev in The Chess Companion (on page 270) states that Mason made 144 consecutive moves with the queen, of course this is incorrect or probably a misprint, we know that the game lasted 144 moves, Chernev failed to point out the actual number of moves 81. Maybe he took this as fact without bothering to check up the validity of this statement?
Mar-27-06  Jonber: Move 71 to move 144 would be 73 consecutive queen moves, not 81, and amazingly it's apparently not a record anymore, though it was for more than 110 years. The game Rebickova - Voracova, Czech Republic 1995 supposedly ended with 74 checks by the Black queen.

Source: http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/records...

Jul-21-06  onesax: Seems to me to be a case of Black being unable to find the best square for his queen!

"No, over here! Wait, here is better ... no here!" ;)

Jan-22-07  Fast Gun: To Jonber, you are right it was 71 and not 81 as I had wrongly stated, though we are in agreement about the record for consecutive queen moves, until Rebickova - Voracova came along:
Jan-27-07  Pi Guy: In reference to Mason's quote: "Dont make a good move too soon.", was 33. f6 played too soon? It seemed like white had an edge until that point and was going to break through black's king's pawn cover, but white locked in the king with that move and his next move.
Jan-28-08  Arbitrarily0: Oddly enough, the only record that this game breaks, is the longest occupation of a square by a king. Black's king sat at g8 for 136 moves (it never moved once after castling).
Oct-24-08  just a kid: I bet Black's queen died of heat stroke after the game.
Jan-04-09  WhiteRook48: <just a kid> LOL! Probably did. After all who would want to make a lot of moves on a hot battlefield?
Jan-11-09  WhiteRook48: two king and queen records:
73 consecutive queen moves and
Most immobile king for 136 moves
Jan-24-09  WhiteRook48: the Black king is so immobile
Jan-31-09  WhiteRook48: how does the game break only one record? I think this is record for most mobile queen.
Feb-07-09  WhiteRook48: a trapped bishop does not make any difference
Feb-14-09  WhiteRook48: Black's dark squared bishop is immobile for 134 moves- move 10 to move 144
Feb-23-09  WhiteRook48: wait, 73 consecutive queen moves record was broken in the 1990s. Never mind...
Feb-28-09  WhiteRook48: can anyone analyze 145. Bxd6?
Mar-06-09  WhiteRook48: Mason, how many times do you have to be told not to move your queen so much?
Nov-04-09  WhiteRook48: ( I mean 145 QE8 tryiing for 146 BxP)
Jul-29-11  Uhohspaghettio: onesax, Black had no other option than to move his Queen. Your comment is not funny or amusing in the slightest.

I feel some people are getting up on their horses a little early, saying it was an obvious draw much earlier. In fact despite looking more simple, Queen endings can be absurdly complicated ones and it is not a situation that anyone can take casually or that there are no breakthroughs possible with, such as with opposite-colour bishops. Furthermore, Queen endings are fairly rare and few people know their endgames that well.

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