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The Turk (Automaton) vs NN
"Nobody's Business But the Turk's" (game of the day Sep-16-04)
? 1770  ·  Scotch Game: Fraser Variation (C45)  ·  1-0
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Apr-17-06  Chessography: <gadfly> Wow, I come back to this game a year later just to look at it for fun, and I don't even remember kibitzing it. Anyways... Don't lecture me about 4... Qh4, I know about the line, I have played against it, and it really is not very difficult to meet. And by the way, learn to spell my name.
Apr-23-06  Chessography: 5. Nc3 is also the best move, better than Nf3 or Nb5.
Apr-23-06
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  OhioChessFan: It looks like d6 would have to be much better than d5.
Mar-28-07  AAAAron: "Nobody's Business But the Turk's"- is a lyric from the song Instanbul was Constantinople, by They Might Be Giants
Mar-28-07  shalgo: <"Nobody's Business But the Turk's"- is a lyric from the song Instanbul was Constantinople, by They Might Be Giants>

"Istanbul (not Constantinople)" was written by Jimmy Kennedy and Nat Simon and originally performed by The Four Lads in 1953. It was later memorably covered by TMBG.

Mar-28-07  Plato: The Turk perished by fire in 1854, but I suspect that Alexander Konstantinopolsky was its reincarnation.
May-27-07  babakova: Why they changed it I can't say... People just liked it better that way.
Jun-27-07  Jake Robertson: The turk was a machine with a man inside of it
Oct-09-07  wolfmaster: <Jake Robertson> I believe that is correct, the story soon got out after The Turk got destroyed by a fire.
Jan-28-08  wolfmaster: Obviously, the man inside the Turk was a strong player(nice sacrifice).
Mar-30-08  Samagonka: Whoomph! Turk it is!
Jan-01-09  WhiteRook48: two rook sacrifice in fact.
Jul-24-09  just a kid: 5.Nb5!? is an interesting move.
Jan-11-10  rich187113: The turk looks about 1800 Elo.
Jan-11-10  zanshin: Not that bad a game really - Black's problems started after <23...Nxb4?> allowing the strong <24.Qd4>.
Jan-12-10  Oliveira: So we may suppose Tibor Scardanelli have played this one.
Jul-13-10  cuppajoe: <Oliveira> Not likely; Tibor Scardanelli is a fictional character.
Oct-03-10  vijay.kumar: nice game..
Dec-13-10  Oliveira: <cuppajoe> I know, I was just kidding.
Jan-29-11  YoungEd: I think that maybe 5. Nf3 is more like !? than ? or ?!. White gives back the pawn, strives for better development, and tries to prove that Black's Q is out too early. It all seems reasonable enough for me--and it has a perfect record in the database!
Aug-08-11  DrMAL: Earliest Scotch Game in the CG database, who else but our hero NN battling the mechanical monster? LOL.

This part (up to move 4 for white) are among few moves that are not either obvious or comical. For example, 4...Qh4 is a joke and it's reply 5.Nf3 is bad (e.g., 5.Nc3 or 5.Nb5 or even 5.Be3). Someone above commented The Turk being around 1800 ELO that seems very generous. Maybe somewhere around there (probably 1200-1500), the ending attack is nice.

Unless you've been duped by the Chessmetrics precept that, by being ranked in the top 10 worldwide, The Turk also gets "calibrated" to GM "rating" as well LMAO, cheers.

Nov-25-11  Penguincw: A fork and mate.
May-11-12  wildrookie: Who was inside the Turk when this game was being played?
Jul-02-12  offramp: <wildrookie: Who was inside the Turk when this game was being played?> My guess would be William Schlumberger.

From page 1: <Always a Scotch Man: The Steinitz variation is considerably weak compared to other responses such as 4...Bc5 or 4...Nf6.> I bow to your almost certainly greater knowledge but this is my preferred method of attack when defending the Scotch - if you see what I mean. It puts white on the back foot straight away and if he doesn't know the theory white could end up lost by move 10.

Nov-26-12  fokers13: I dislike black's f5, 0-0-0 or something seems at least more interesting.
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