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|Apr-25-06|| ||United33: so the endgame is 1R,1N,1B vs 1Q and then 1Q is not enough to win the game|
|Apr-25-06|| ||euripides: <united> White wins more material - see the posts by <soberknight> and <eaglewing>.|
|Apr-25-06|| ||stanleys: Rather easy one - I will give some suggestions for tomorrow's puzzle later|
|Apr-25-06|| ||TheUnkraut: Alternative: Qxz9 followed by the knightfork on s10|
|Apr-25-06|| ||WarmasterKron: Fairly simple. The queen sac leapt out at me, but the follow-up required more thought.|
<euripides> 25.Rxd8+ is not possible as the knight is still in the way.
|Apr-25-06|| ||euripides: <warmaster> White has a rook on c8, so Rxd8+ looks legal to me. It is true that my line would not allow <eagle>'s elegant finish.|
|Apr-25-06|| ||Summum Malum: Elegant finish..|
|Apr-25-06|| ||ChessPieceFace: i just got through looking at yesterdays puzzle again, so when i clicked on this one, the answer practically jumped into my lap! hooray for my best week ever! :)|
|Apr-25-06|| ||dakgootje: First move was obvious of course, but for some strange reason i had difficulties with finding Nc6 and calculating it all. Strange as i normally dont have such problems...|
|Apr-25-06|| ||United33: <euripides> perhaps u can read my sentence carefully, my point is 1Q can't win vs 1N,1B,1R and that's why i conclude that black has no more hope to win.|
|Apr-25-06|| ||euripides: <United> I don't know which line you're referring to. But if white plays correctly he ends up with more than the material balance you mention. According to <eagle> he ends up a rook and knight ahead.|
|Apr-25-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: Nice puzzle, but the 24...Nd8 25.Nc6! part is somewhat tricker and makes this one of the tougher Tuesday puzzles!|
|Apr-25-06|| ||WarmasterKron: <euripides> Yes, of course. I see it now but I was too busy focusing on the d1 rook.|
|Apr-25-06|| ||Nostalgia: I saw Qxc8 and Rxc8 of course, but didn't see white's compensation after black blocked with the knight. Missed Nc6.|
Glad so many of you found it extraordinarily simple, though. Guess I'm just a super-patzer.
|Apr-25-06|| ||YouRang: Dang. First time in a long while that I blew a Tuesday puzzle. I looked at 23. Qxc8+, and even figured that it was the *probable* solution, but I missed how effective the knight is at c6 at holding the attack together.|
|Apr-25-06|| ||JustAFish: <Soberknight and Calculoso> Thanks. I was blinded by the check. I think it was Fischer (who inspired my Avatar name) who said "Patzer sees check, patzer gives check".|
|Apr-25-06|| ||kevin86: I,too goofed this one. I tried Qxc8+ only to run into the nonmate. I missed the lethal Nc6,which threatens mate and the queen. White either wins the queen,mates,or clears out the whoe back row!|
|Apr-25-06|| ||jmelton: Got this one relatively fast, but it wasn't a beginner-level puzzle like yesterday's; about right for a Tuesday. |
What I'm most interested in about this game is where Black went wrong and what he could have done better. Georgie Dubb suggests that the: <attempt to save a pawn with 9. ... Kf8 (instead of 9...bxc6 10.Qxc6+ Bd7 11.Qxd5 was an eyesore and finally led to disaster ...>.
But I don't think that's the problem -- if Black's only choice was to just give up the b7 pawn, then he's more or less lost anyway. Black's big mistake was 12...c5, inexplicably giving away the pawn he had just saved with Kf8 and, even worse, allowing White to open up all sorts of lines with Black's king still sitting on f8.
Black should have instead played something like 12...Bb7 13.Na4 Rb8 14.Rd1 h6 15.Be3 Ng5. If White takes on g5, Black's rook has the h-file and can also protect the c-pawn with Rh6. If instead White leaves the knight alone and goes for occupying c5 (e.g. 16.Nd2 Ne6 17.Nb3 Ba8 18.Nac5 Nxc5 19.Nxc5 Kg8), although White has an obvious positional advantage it doesn't look like Black is lost. Fritz evaluates the position after both of these example lines as a slight edge for White. Then again, Fritz is no Karpov when it comes to evaluating and playing closed positions.
|Apr-25-06|| ||En prise: I am new to this site and just added this game as my first in my favorite games collection. It is instructive in that it combines the exploitation of an opponentt's back rank weakness and in how to take advantage of the geometrical pattern of the knight in combination. See The Art of Chess Combination Part II Chapter II by Eugene Znosko-Borovsky.|
|Apr-25-06|| ||dakgootje: <En prise> Welcome to the site! =)|
|Apr-25-06|| ||Whitehat1963: Not very hard, but it did take me 30-45 seconds or so.|
|Apr-25-06|| ||jperr75108: Not so hard, get the back rank idea petty quick. What comes after Qxc8 is a bit harder to see.|
|Apr-26-06|| ||1instrument: it was easy to guess the sacrifice, i just don't see after 24. Rxc8+. Nc6 isn't doin it for me.|
|Apr-26-06|| ||blingice: Probably 25. Nc6 and the knight on d8 has two more pieces bothering it, and in addition to that, the knight is also attacking the queen. Since black can't really manage all of that, resigning is clear.|
|Apr-26-06|| ||patzer2: White's 23. Qxc8+! initiates a winning decoy after 23...Bxc8 24. Rxc8+ with either 24...Bd8 25. Nxe6+! (removing the guard)or 24...Nd8 25. Nc6! (double attack).|
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