| Nov-17-05 |
| prinsallan: Once more in the opening explorer the Grob opening proves to be a fine weapon. I am very new to the Grob and if any experienced player reads this it would be great with some explanations on why this opening has a stunning 71% win according to the opening explorer. I used to play g5 in order to fianchetto and 0-0 early, but that was several years ago. I feel good about g4, but I cant seem to understand exacttly why. |
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| Nov-17-05 |
| mrbasso: The online database simply has only ~345000 games, whereas the databases from Chessbase or Convekta have ~3 million games.
According to Bigbase 2005 1.g4 has 47%
success rate based on >900 games...
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| Nov-24-05 |
| prinsallan: thanks <mrbasso>.
As I said on another page, cant even remember which one, but it was a grob opening: "I cant understand why the Grob should have more wins than a standard Kings pawn or Queens pawn opening, but if so, it must have something to do with it being played only by the initiated or the very best (and I find the latter unbelievable)". |
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| Nov-24-05 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: Many of the Grob opening games in this database were also played by Claude Frizzel Bloodgood. The authenticity (and value) of his games are doubtful. |
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| Dec-05-05 |
| prinsallan: <EmperorAtahualpa> I read about Claude now, seems he knew the Grob. According to the info about him he wrote books about this opening. Do you mean that his games are doubtful beacause:
1: The players he met were bad players or:
2: The games are mostly from small tournaments, stating that <back to 1> ^^ |
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| Dec-05-05 |
| prinsallan: Addon to last post...
Ps. Yes, I read all the info about him, and the info said he ranked high since he exploited the system rating with consistently beating low ranked players. Ds |
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| Dec-05-05 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: well <prinsallan> what I'm arguing is 1: his opponents are bad. And if these games entered the opening explorer, the winning percentage using the Grob of course gives a wrong impression. And in his case, the fact that he wrote a book doesn't mean much. :) |
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| Dec-05-05 |
| Marvol: 7. d7-d5?? is not the brightest of moves.
And I think it has only partially to do with the opening being the Grob - that is, it knocked black into a state of "oh well I'll just take it easy with a fianchetto". Although black's play is so silly that he may have played it against 1. e2-e4, too. It's again not the Grob that's strong but its opponent who's weak. |
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| Dec-07-05 |
| prinsallan: Thats what happens when you play against n00bs ^^ |
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| Apr-22-06 |
| Eggman: <<7...d5??>> Oh, the Hoareau! The Hoareau!! |
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