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| nateinstein: Very nice rook takes pawn, forces trade and then Ng6 forces h6, sine if Bxg2?? Qxe6+! wins the game with smother mate. If dxe6 then Rxd8 is checkmate. If Kh8, Nf7+ Kg8, Nh6+ Kh8, Qg8 Rxg8 and Nf7++. The other line is what happened in the game.. |
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| Apocalypse79: 28..Rg8 or Qc3 29. Nf6 ! will be great.. |
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| Oct-31-04 |
| f1list: I for one thoroughly enjoyed Knight mates week ! |
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| Oct-31-04 |
| cheski: Not too happy with this one:
What if Black does not play 18...h6?
but goes straight for 18...Nc6. |
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| chessgames.com: 18...h6
"The move played is the best defense, forcing White to take on e4 with his knight, but it is nevertheless inadequate. If 18... c6, then 19. xe4 g6 20.h4 h5 21.e4 and black's kingside is too weak. f6 is the immediate threat, and if 21...b2 White wins by 22.f6+  g7 23.xd7 xe2 24.f6+ h7 25.f7+ h6 26. f3" (Analysis by John Nunn) |
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| Oct-31-04 |
| Gowe: nice move, and a little hard to find. |
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| Oct-31-04 |
| cheski: Looked at it over coffee, and I have to agree: an immediate Nc6 would make no difference.
Well done Mr. Olafsson ( and John Nunn et al). |
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| Chessical: Perhaps <12...Rd8> was not the best continuation? Instead, Levitt could have played for <d5>, as per: Timman vs Ljubojevic, 1989. With the B on e4, followed by a Bf6, he would have dynamic piece play and space to compensate for the hanging pawns. <12...d5!?> 13.cxd5 exd5 14.Rac1 Rd8 |
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| cheski: For those who, like me, find it hard to visualize a long string of moves, I have put up the playable game complete with the variations at
chess dot cheski dot net |
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| patzer2: What is the best continuation if White plays 17. Ng5 first? Is 17.Ng5 Bxg2 18. Rxe6 g6 or 17.Ng5 Bxg2 18. Rxe6 Na6 good for Black? |
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| patzer2: <cheski> Your site has a lot of advertising. So your post appears to disregard guidline number 2. If you have some detailed analysis of this game or the Sunday puzzle, why not post it here? |
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| I sacrifice like Tal: What's after Rg6? Say black put his queen to c3? I can only imagine white would play Nf8 winning back the exchange because he was threatening to take the h-pawn. But black looks like he can snatch back a pawn and might be good to get a draw? I know I'm missing something here. This is so embaressing. |
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| Oct-31-04 |
| santhosh achar: hello kedar |
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| Oct-31-04 |
| I sacrifice like Tal: Ahh! Not Nf8 after ...Qc3 but Nf6! Because it blocks the defence of the black queen. If the black Queen takes it white can go into a Rook vs Queen endgame winning. :-) Duh! |
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| Oct-31-04 |
| rclb: I think the continuation is 28...Qc3 29 Nf6 then if Qxf6 the white queen can then fork a rook so 29... Qe7 30 Rxg6 Qxf7 31 Rxf7 and mate on h7 is unavoidable |
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| rclb: sorry should read 29 ...Qc7 |
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| Joshua01: I haven't played for quite while, and this is my first post (great website, ChessGames.com!). If ...Qc3,
29 Nf6 Qxf6, 30. Rxf6 gxf6, 31. Qxf6+, followed by a check on f5/g6 picks up one of the rooks. |
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| BigBlackMask: ok ok im sorry for posting without thinking. I see Qxe6+. these GMs are somthing else to have that vison from move 16 is amazing |
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| kevin86: The sac of the rook unbolts the black position-and mate threats are frighteningly (GWB word) fast. |
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| Oct-31-04 |
| erikcu: Sunday puzzles for me are usually to find the first move, or try and understand why each move of the combination works. I did not see this one at all, but it is really instructional figuring out why it works. |
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| Nov-01-04 |
| Marius: could someone explain me if 17 Ng5 is wrong and if not, why is 17. Rxe6 better ? |
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| Nov-01-04 |
| Saruman: <Marius> After 18.Ng5 if -Bxg2 19.Qxe6+!! dxe6(otherwise smothered mate) 20.Rxd8#. 17.Ng5 doesnt seem wrong to me, only that the text gives a more forced variation. |
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| patzer2: <Chessgames.com> Could you please have <Crafty> check 17. Ng5? |
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| crafty: 17. g5 xg2 18. d3 g6 19.  b1 c7 20. xg2 c6  (eval -0.96; depth 14 ply; 100M nodes) |
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| patzer2: <Chessgames.com> Thanks! The Crafty analysis of 17. Ng5? is helpful. I suspected Black had the better of it after 17. Ng5? Bxg2! but the position is complicated and I was away from my home computer and did not have access to Fritz 8 to verify. |
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sac: 17.Rxe6