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|Sep-16-05|| ||sneaky pete: <Averageguy> Because 17.Rxd6 .. is even stronger.|
|Sep-16-05|| ||Dres1: Colle system is caca|
|Sep-16-05|| ||keypusher: <seacrow> my edition of Vuckovic's book has some helpful footnotes by John Nunn, who explains some of the flaws in Vuckovic's analysis of this game.|
Vuckovic's occasional analytical errors shouldn't obscure the fact that The Art of Attack is one of the best chess books ever written.
|Oct-23-05|| ||wwall: Not 16...Rxh5?? 17.Qd3+ Kh6 18.Nxf7 mate.
Or 17.Nxf7+ Kh7 18.Qc2+ Kg8 19.Nxd8 Bxe6 20.Nxe6 and White wins.
Or 19.Nxh8 Kxh8 20.Rxd4 and 21.h6, which should win for White.
If 19...Kh6, then 20.Qb3, threatening 21.Rxf6+ gxf6 22.Qf7 and 23.Qg6 mate.
|Apr-18-06|| ||Deefstes: This game confuses me! Apart from the weird Bishop sac, 17.Nxf7+, winning the Queen still looks stronger to me than the text line.|
|Sep-21-08|| ||just a kid: <sneaky pete>17.Nxf7+ which I have read is also really good.|
|Sep-15-09|| ||RandomVisitor: The critical line appears to be:
12.Bxh7+ Kxh7 13.Ng5+ <Kg8> 14.Qh5 Qf6 15.Qh7+ Kf8 16.Ne4 Qe5 <17.f4> Qd5 18.c4 where it first appears that white can keep up some pressure on either 18...Qc6 or 18...Qa5, but the line 18...Qc6 19.Qh8+ Ke7 20.Qxg7 <Kd8> and now:
a) 21.Nxd6 Qxd6 22.Qxf7 Re7 23.Qg8+ Kc7 24.f5 e5 25.Bg5 b6! 26.Bxe7 Qxe7 27.Qe6 Qg7 28.f6 Qg5 and black has uncoiled and possibly has the initiative.
b) 21.Qxf7 with continuing pressure.
Drawing would be 17.cxd4 Qxh2+! 18.Qxh2 Bxh2+ 19.Kxh2 Nf6 and now 20.Nxf6 gxf6 21.Bd2 goes nowhere.
Because of these outcomes, 12.Qxd4 or 12.Bc2 are solid and worth considering.
|Sep-15-09|| ||Marmot PFL: Often is seems 13...Kg6 is the best (or only) defense, but here f8 is available so Kg8 was correct, and probably would draw.|
|Sep-22-09|| ||RandomVisitor: My complete analysis of the 12.Bxh7+ Kxh7 13.Ng5+ <Kg8> line is posted here:
|Oct-18-11|| ||Domdaniel: A new book all about the Bxh7+ sac, Sacking the Citadel, examines this game all over again.|
A review: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/201...
|Feb-26-12|| ||Gambit All: Great Game! The conceived double sac is a terrific attack.|
|Feb-27-16|| ||luftforlife: <Marco65>: GM Dr. Reuben Fine analyzes the consequences of the alternative line stemming from 13. . . . Kg8 as follows:|
"14. Qh5, Nf6; 15. Qxf7+, Kh8; 16. Re4, Nxe4; 17. Qh5+, Kg8; 18. Qh7+, Kf8; 19. Qh8+, Ke7; 20. Qxg7#."
Reuben Fine, The Middle Game in Chess (New York: David McKay Co. 1952, Tartan softcover reprint, September 1972), at 37 (notation converted, cumulative enumeration substituted).
Best to all, ~ lufty
|Jun-03-16|| ||andrea volponi: 14...Ce5!(gm mednis:??deep friz 14)-15 Txe5!Axe5-Dxf7+ Rh8-Dh5+ Rg8-b3!! |
|Aug-15-17|| ||Christoforus Polacco: 19.... Kh6 is probably better - this is move like for perpetual check :) Off course 3 pawns advantage (or even rook after 21.N:h8) is enough to win for White. But anyway - IMO better is 17.N:f7++|
|Dec-31-17|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Guessing that 2018 will be the Year of the Dog in the Chinese calendar, and that Colle is pronounced "Collie."|
|Dec-31-17|| ||GrahamClayton: The Colle System may look innocuous, but games like this show the bite that it has if Black plays carelessly.|
|Dec-31-17|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Marco65: I submitted this game, hoping that some kibitzer can explain that bishop sacrifice to me.>|
And after less than 13 years 2 months, it was accepted!
|Dec-31-17|| ||Ratt Boy: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Guessing that 2018 will be the Year of the Dog in the Chinese calendar, and that Colle is pronounced "Collie.">|
Thank you for explaining the pun. I thought I'd read that he pronounced it "Coal", so I couldn't figure out the pun at all.
|Dec-31-17|| ||morfishine: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Guessing that 2018 will be the Year of the Dog in the Chinese calendar, and that Colle is pronounced "Collie."> While you are probably right regarding the submitters intent, for one, today is 12/31/2017 so its still the year of the rooster.|
Also, the Chinese New Year officially begins February 16 2018, so we have 6 more weeks of crowing to put up with before transitioning into the Dog.
Conclusion: Sadly, again, someone forgot to do their due diligence. That sound you hear is the trash compactor reducing this one to a size that hopefully, we can no longer see
However, nice quality game very much worthy of being GOTD
|Dec-31-17|| ||nimh: 13...Kg6??!
Instead of tucking the king back into safety, he decides to bring it further out into the open... Is it somehow linked to psychology?
|Dec-31-17|| ||oolalimk1: Does GOTD mean "game of the dog"??|
|Dec-31-17|| ||Cibator: My sleep-bleared eyes early today (NZ time) had the ECO code for this game looking like "Dog". Rather apt, given the pun!|
|Dec-31-17|| ||birimbombum: D05=Dog! I like it!|
|Dec-31-17|| ||morfishine: Where's old <posoo>? |
His eloquent take on other's posts is treasured
Happy New Years everybody, including dear old <posoo> !
|Jan-03-18|| ||WannaBe: D09 look more dog than D05
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