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Bent Larsen vs Efim Geller
"Bent on Destruction" (game of the day Apr-19-2013)
Nimzowitsch Memorial (1960), Copenhagen DEN, Aug-??
Hungarian Opening: General (A00)  ·  1-0
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Jun-21-14
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Conrad,

Focus is correct regarding Resevsky.

In the 1953 candiates the Russian players were instructed by those in charge to keep Reshesky away from Botvinnik.

I know Bronstein, and Suetin (who was Petrosian's coach/second in '53) confirmed this (bells are that Keres also revealed something was going on.)

Najdorf was not allowed in the '48 tournament (held to find a champion when Alekhine passed away) after Fine pulled out though Najdorf was the natural choice as a replacement.

Najdorf's mistake being beating Botvinnik in a previous tournment "I'll pluck him like a chicken." he said, and he did.

Jun-21-14
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  perfidious: Just an average top-five player, though strong enough to play for the world title vacated by the death of Alekhine.

If one were to believe blowhards such as <conrag>, no champion can really play--it is all a figment of our imagination.

Jun-22-14
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Perfidious,

Reshevsky never did have a good PR.

The well known 'facts' about him tend to blinker the modern young player whose chess library consists of a few books on openings and a computer.

Him and Fischer never quite got along, his opening rep was weak and his playing style unexciting and non-inspiring. He never played a in a World Championship match

That is all they need to form an opinion and there is nothing like a lop-sided opinion to prompt a post.

I like posters like Conrad.

It draws out more knowledgeable posters like The Focus and prompts them to post (where otherwise they may not have done.) Their knowledge and facts are shared. Everyone benefits.

Whether or not it can get them to look at a non-opening chess book is another matter. But it may stir their curiosity.

On another thread I said it is quite rare to hear a loser fully congratulate the winner without offering some lame excuse.

Even rarer is a poster admitting they are wrong, their argument has failed and their opinion has changed.

Jun-22-14  Wyatt Gwyon: <"Reshevsky was pretty average.">

Conrad, just out of curiosity, what is your rating?

Jun-22-14
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  perfidious: <Wyatt> Somewhere on the nawth side of mediocre is my guess of <conrag>'s skill level--how strong can someone be if they do not grasp such a fundamental concept as en passant?

Credit where it is due, though; at trolling he is surely GM strength.

Jun-22-14  SimonWebbsTiger: Yeah, that Reshevsky, what a patzer....

Which is why the Fischer volume in "On My Great Predecessors" by Kasparov devotes 100 pages to Sammy.

Sammy held his own v. Bobby in the terminated match in the 60s. He played 100 or so games v. 11 World champions and was active in the age of Lasker, Capablanca and Alekhine plus the age of Botvinnik, Fischer and even Karpov and Kasparov!!

Jun-22-14  SimonWebbsTiger: btw, a game of great sentimental value, from the 1991 Veteran's Tourney, Moscow.

Reshevsky vs Smyslov, 1991

Jun-22-14  Wyatt Gwyon: Seeing these late games of Reshevsky, it always impresses me just how much chess history his career spanned.

Capablanca vs Reshevsky, 1936

Jun-22-14  SimonWebbsTiger: had a look at an old Elo list in Informator 50 (1990, ie. Sammy was 79 then). He had 2415 in Elo.

Yup, what a patzer, eh?

Jun-22-14  Wyatt Gwyon: Yeah, that's pretty average. I meet those kinds of patzers all the time at weekend Swisses.
Jun-22-14  Conrad93: Reshevsky was decent for the 1940's and 50's, but he was nowhere near the top five in strength.

I wouldn't even include him in the top twenty.

Jun-22-14  Olavi: I see 'Reshevsky on Chess' has been recommended. Not a bad book, ghostwritten as it is by Reinfeld.
Jun-22-14  parisattack: The 'Early Reinfelds' were wonderful books. The 'mimeos' are excellent as well as his published tomes on Keres, Nimzo, Botvinnik.
Jun-22-14  parisattack: <Conrad93: Reshevsky was decent for the 1940's and 50's, but he was nowhere near the top five in strength. I wouldn't even include him in the top twenty.>

Your methodology apparently differs from Chessmetrics and others. Perhaps you could share it with us <Conrad93>? I'm not much of a math/stat whiz, but others here are and am sure they'd appreciate learning of your work!

Jun-22-14  Wyatt Gwyon: <parisattack> I just came dangerously close to spitting out a mouthful of wine. Thanks for that.
Jun-22-14  Conrad93: <<Conrad93: Reshevsky was decent for the 1940's and 50's, but he was nowhere near the top five in strength. I wouldn't even include him in the top twenty.> Your methodology apparently differs from Chessmetrics and others. Perhaps you could share it with us <Conrad93>? I'm not much of a math/stat whiz, but others here are and am sure they'd appreciate learning of your work!>

That's implying ratings are always an accurate measure of strength...

Looking at his career, he has nothing over Bronstein, Botvinnik, Keres, Fischer, or Larsen.

Jun-22-14  Conrad93: Aronian is currently #2, but we all know he is #5 in reality from his performance recently.
Jun-23-14  SimonWebbsTiger: "My name is Conrad. I am here on cg.com to write ill-informed trash about great players...and I am here to learn."

What a Grade A foolish person.

Jun-23-14
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  perfidious: <conrag: Aronian is currently #2, but we all know he is #5 in reality from his performance recently.>

Do tell.

Not all of us are among the cognoscenti, as you evidently are. We await, with bated breath, your explanation as to why this is so.

Jun-23-14  Conrad93: <Do tell.

Not all of us are among the cognoscenti, as you evidently are. We await, with bated breath, your explanation as to why this is so.>

Did you already forget about the tournament in Norway?

He was in 9th place.

Jun-23-14
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  TheFocus: If you want to see how good an annotator Reshevsky was, look at his old columns in <Chess Life>. Or was it <Chess Review>? Very nice notes.

In fact, if someone was to do a decent bio on Reshesvky, and not that piss-poor McFarland tome, they would have to include his game annotations from his columns.

I don't know why McFarland allowed that monstrosity to be published. Sammy deserved better and I am not even a fan of his.

Jun-23-14
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  perfidious: <conrag>, you want to argue with adults, at least get your facts straight; Aronian finished equal sixth, not ninth. While subpar, such a performance does not relegate him to perdition, despite your ill-informed, gormless comments, which are typically short on thoughtful, objective commentary and long on invective.
Jun-23-14  Wyatt Gwyon: Conrad doesn't need facts.
Jun-23-14  parisattack: <TheFocus: If you want to see how good an annotator Reshevsky was, look at his old columns in <Chess Life>. Or was it <Chess Review>? Very nice notes. In fact, if someone was to do a decent bio on Reshesvky, and not that piss-poor McFarland tome, they would have to include his game annotations from his columns.

I don't know why McFarland allowed that monstrosity to be published. Sammy deserved better and I am not even a fan of his.>

Agree on the Reshevsky tome. A real disaster for a firm which usually offers only the best.

Hans Kmoch was also a fine annotator in his day - and of course an excellent writer. Towards the end, things got a little shaky in his work at Chess Review and Al (Horowitz) would have to occasionally note Han's notes.

Jun-23-14  Conrad93: ChessGames.com has him in 9th place.
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