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Jan Erik Westman vs Erkki E T Havansi
WchT U26 11th fin-B (1964), Krakow POL, rd 6, Jul-18
King Pawn Game: Damiano Defense. Damiano Gambit Chigorin Gambit (C40)  ·  1-0
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Feb-18-09
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  whiteshark: Opening of the Day

If you think about the beginners advise not to open the position if you are down in development / or your ♔ is still in the center, than only <4...d5> looks like a blunder.

Feb-18-09
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  whiteshark: Here is an unusual corr game where Black kept the center closed.

[Event "TH-M-2753.1"]
[Site "IECC Email"]
[Date "2007.06.06"]
[White "Wight, David"]
[Black "Trofimov, Vladimir"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C40"]
[WhiteElo "2164"]
[BlackElo "2276"]
[WhiteTeamCountry "USA"]
[BlackTeamCountry "RUS"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 Qe7 4. Nf3 Qxe4+ 5. Be2 Bb4 6. O-O Ne7 7. a3 Bd6 8. Nc3 Qe6 9. b3 Qf7 10. Re1 a6 11. Nh4 Kd8 12. d4 Nbc6 13. Bc4 Qf8 14. Ne4 Bxh2+ 15. Kxh2 d5 16. Bxd5 Nxd5 17. Kg1 b6 18. c4 Nde7 19. Bf4 Ng6 20. Nxg6 hxg6 21. c5 b5 22. d5 Ne5 23. d6 Bd7 24. Qd4 c6 25. a4 b4 26. Qxb4 Kc8 27. Bxe5 fxe5 28. Qb6 Qd8 29. a5 Rb8 30. Qxa6+ Rb7 31. Qc4 Qh4 32. f3 Qh1+ 33. Kf2 Qh4+ 34. Ke2 Qh2 35. a6 Ra7 36. Kf2 Qh4+ 37. Ke3 Qf4+ 38. Kd3 Kb8 39. Kc3 Ka8 40. Nd2 Qf6 41. Qe4 Rh4 42. Qxe5 1-0

Nov-07-15  yadasampati: Very difficult? It took me about one minute, and i am not a very advanced player
Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: It's Saturday, which means the weekend is here! The weekend: the best 10 minutes of the week.

Anyway, this is probably on the easier Saturday puzzles, as I got 14.Bxd6 cxd6 15.Rxe8+ Rxe8. I didn't miss the bishop check, as I would've nose dived straight into that fork.

The 16.Nxd6+ Kdx 17.Nxe8 Kxe8 line is not that bad, as white is ahead in development, has the bishop pair and is up in the pawn, but a win is most certainly not in the bag. It'll require some work and good technique.

Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: Here's my look at the game and the Saturday puzzle (14. ?) with Deep Fritz 14 and the chessgames.com opening explorer:

<1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6?> A well known opening blunder.

<3. Nxe5! Qe7> The refutation followed by Black's strongest reply.

If 3... fxe5? White wins after 4. Qh5+ Ke7 5. Qxe5+ Kf7 6. Bc4+ Kg6

(6... d5 7. Bxd5+ Kg6 8. h4 h6 9. Bxb7 Bd6 10. Qa5 Nc6 11. Bxc6 Bd7 12. Bxa8 Qxa8 13. d3 )

7. Qf5+ Kh6 8. d4+ g5 9. h4 Bb4+

(9... d6 10. hxg5+ Kg7 11.
Qf7# as in K Million vs J Marx, 2000; 9... Kg7 10. Qf7+ Kh6 11. hxg5# as in
Greco vs NN, 1620)

10. c3 Qe7 11. Bxg5+ Kg7 12. Bxe7 with Deep Fritz 14 announcing mate-in-nine.

<4. Nf3 d5 5. d3 dxe4 6. dxe4 Qxe4+ 7. Be2 Nc6 8. O-O Bd7 9. Nc3 Qe6 10. Bf4 O-O-O 11. Nb5 Be8?> This (11...Be8?) is the losing move.

Black can put up more resistance and fight on with 11...Ne5 12. Nxa7+ Kb8 13. Nb5 Bc5 14. Nbd4 Qe7 15. c3 g5 16. Bg3 Nh6 17. Qb3 (+1.04 @ 22 depth, Deep Fritz 14).

<12. Bd3!> (+2.13 @ 22 depth, Deep Fritz 14) With this move (12. Bd3!), White is winning.

<12...Bd6 13. Re1 Qg4 14. Bxd6!> (+5.93 @ 23 depth, Deep Fritz 14) This move (14. Bxd6!) solves today's Saturday puzzle.

My weaker Saturday try was 14. Rxe8, which wins with difficulty after 14...Qxf4 (not 14... Rxe8? 15. Bxd6 cxd6 16. Bf5+ Qxf5 17. Nxd6+ transposing to the game) 15. Re4 Qf5 16. Nxd6+ cxd6 17. Re7 Qc5 18. Rxg7 Rd7 19. Rxd7 Kxd7 20. c3 Nge7 21. Qa4 (+ 2.53 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 14).

<14... cxd6 15. Rxe8 Rxe8>

Fritz gives 15... Nge7 as the best try in a lost position, but it still leaves White winning easily after 16. Nxa7+ Kb8 17. Rxd8+ Nxd8 18. Nb5 Ndc6 19. c3 Qd7 20. Qb3 (+6.48 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 14).

<16. Bf5+ 1-0> Black resigns in lieu of 16...Qxf5 17. Nxd6+ Kb8 18. Nxf5 (+8.42 @ 22 depth, Deep Fritz 14).

Nov-07-15  MindCtrol9: It was not difficult this puzzle.I saw the combination really fast.Sometimes,they are not easy like this one.The other day there was one with a bunch of moves what I don't call puzzle.
Nov-07-15  dnp: quite easy for a Sat
Nov-07-15  sfm: 13.-,Qf7 iso. Qg4?? is off course better.
Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: <14.Bxd6> and White wins: 14...cxd6 15.Rxe8 (the winning move) 15...Rxe8 16.Bf5+ a nice forking finale

*****

Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  agb2002: The material is identical.

Black threatens 14... B(Q)xf4.

This threat, Black's poor development, the bishop on e8 and the questionable position of the black queen suggest 14.Bxd6:

A) 14... cxd6 15.Nxd6+

A.1) 15... Rxd6 16.Rxe8+ wins a pawn with a much better position.

A.2) 15... Kd7 17.Nxe8 with the same result as in A.1.

B) 14... cxd6 15.Rxe8 seems to win a piece and looks much better than 15.Nxd6+ due to 15... Rxe8 16.Bf5+ Qxf5 17.Nxd6+ Kd7 18.Nxf5+ + - [Q+P vs R].

C) 14... a6 15.Bxc7 axb5 (15... Rd7 16.Rxe8+ wins decisive material) 16.Bxd8 Kxd8 17.Bf5+ wins the queen.

Nov-07-15  HeadCrunch: Material is equal here yet black can simply take the bishop with his queen leaving him a piece up! So I guess black went on to win the game?
Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  gofer: Only 13 moves in and black has made a HUGE mess of the opening. White has so many simple combinations that bare fruit, but the simplest is as follows;

<14 Bxd6 ...>

What can black do???

The rook cannot take back...

14 ... Rxd6
15 Rxe8+ ...

15 ... Rd8
16 Bf5+ Qxf5
17 Nxa7+ Kb8 (Nxa7 Qxd8#)
18 Nxc6+ bxc6
19 Qxd8+

15 ... Kd7
16 Nxd6+ cxd6
17 Bb5+ Kc7
18 Nd4 Qxd1+
19 Rxd1

15 ... Nd8
16 Bf5+ Qxf5
17 Qxd6! cxd6
18 Nxd6+ Kd7
19 Rxd8 Kxd8
20 Nxf5

So the pawn must...

<14 ... cxd6>
<15 Rxe8 ...>

Again white hammers home how weak black's back rank is with its knight on g8 blocking in Rh8. So black must choose between losing a whole bishop or the game...

<15 ... Rxe8>
<16 Bf5+! Qxf5>
<17 Nxd6+ >


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Its all over. Black can do whatever it likes. It is the equivalent of a pawn and a whole rook down. This seems a little simple for a Saturday...

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Yep. Too simple as many have said...

Nov-07-15  dfcx: material is even.

Black will take the bishop on the next move. White has choices of Nxd6, Bxd6 and Rxe8, with the threat to play Be5+ later.

14.Bxd6 seems to be the most promising.

A. 14...fxd6 15.Rxe8 Nge7 (Rxe8 16.Be5+ Qxe5 17.Nxe6+ forks three ways.) 16.Rxd8+ wins

B. 14...Rxd6 15.Nxd6 wins a rook.

C. 14...a6 15.Bxc7

Nov-07-15  Pinkerton: Bad square for the Q that g4.
Nov-07-15  Pinkerton: Perhaps 9...Qg6
Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  varishnakov: 14.Bxd6 cxd6 15.Rxe8 Rxe8 16.B-f5+ Qxf5 17.Nxd6+ K-b8 18.Nxf5

I don't care that it is simple for a Saturday. I am pleased that I solved it.

Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: <Pinkerton> If 9...Qg6, then 10. Ne5! (+2.93 @ 23 depth, Deep Fritz 14) wins due to the threat of 11. Bh5 .
Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: a series of sacs and forks nail the black queen!
Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
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Nov-07-15
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  thegoodanarchist: concluding the game with a royal fork is nice
Nov-07-15
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Nov-07-15
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  Marmot PFL: Oh yeah, saw 16 Nxd6+ which wins but Bf5+ is crushing.
Nov-07-15  Olsonist: I love Thursdays.
Nov-07-15  CHESSTTCAMPS: Material is even, but black's two minor pieces on the back rank show a significant lag in useful development. The lineup of black Q & K on the diagonal creates a tactical opportunity. Black's threat of 14... Qxf4 should actually help white to spot the win:

14.Bxd6 cxd6 (a6 15.Bxc7 axb5 16.Bxd8 Kxd8 17.Bf5+ wins the queen) 15.Rxe8! Rxe8 16.Bf5+! Qxf5 17.Nxd6+ wins the queen.

Nov-07-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Surprisingly easy for a Saturday.
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