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Herman Grooten vs Alexander Motylev
Essent Open (2003), Hoogeveen, rd 8
King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Gligoric-Taimanov System (E92)  ·  0-1


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  An Englishman: Good Evening: A repeat--eight years ago, I wrote that it was too easy for a Sunday. Now it's too easy for a Saturday. Perhaps with the advance of chess knowledge, someday we shall call this puzzle too easy for a Monday!

However, 30....Black to Play will remain impossible forever, esp. insofar as the correct follow-up is not the Bishop capture.

Apr-23-16  King.Arthur.Brazil: I agree with dfcx I see the same line before. But I didn't thought about Qd8+ etc. neither the Nf3+ and Nd4+. Now, looking at Qd8+ and the Ng5, it seems OK this moves then Qxf1 Rxf1 Bxf1, B... moves and the P goes to f1 = Q.
Apr-23-16  not not: i would take his knight with my rook and invade with queen via f3

lots of calculating lines though; if he takes with king, fork wins, but if he retakes with queen it gets messy

Apr-23-16  Cheapo by the Dozen: I thought ... Bg4+ would be in the mix.

Anyhow, it's pretty easy to find the first couple of moves, because it's pretty clear that nothing else could work.

Apr-23-16  AlicesKnight: ...... Rxd2+ is possible; if 36. Rxd2 then ....Qxf3# while Kxd2 allows the N fork, so 36.Qxd2 Qxf3+ 37.Ke1 and where now? - Oh, nice, didn't see that....
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  morfishine: Remove the defender <35...Rxd2+>

Now, I'll remove myself to fridge and fetch another beer


Apr-23-16  scholes: 30 ..Rd3 is spectacular
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  alphee: I got the first move but my guess was that white would take with the rook, hence the following was a bit different.
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  agb2002: Black has a bishop for a rook and a knight.

White threatens 36.Qxh1.

The first idea that comes to mind is 35... Rxd2+, removing one defender:

A) 36.Rxd2 Qxf3#.

B) 36.Kxd2 Nxf3+

B.1) 37.Kc2 Nxe1+ 38.Bxe1 (38.Rxe1 Qg2 wins the bishop) 38... Qf3 and, although the material is balanced, the advanced linked passed pawns should prove decisive.

B.2) 37.Kd3 Nxe1+ 38.Bxe1 (38.Rxe1 Qf3+ wins the bishop) 38... Qf3+ followed by Qg4 and f3 looks winning.

B.3) 37.Ke2 Nxe1 38.Rxe1 (38.Bxe1 Bf1+ 39.Kd2 Qg2+ 40.Ne2 Bxe2 wins decisive material) 38... Qh2 wins decsive material.

C) 36.Qxd2 Qxf3+ 37.Ke1 Nxe4 38.Nxe4 (due to Nxd2 and gxf2+) 38... Qh1+

C.1) 39.Bg1 Qxg1+ 40.Ke2 Bg4+ 41.Kd3 Qd4+ 42.Kc2 Qxe4+

C.1.a) 43.Kb2 Bxd1 and the passed pawns should be enough to win. White doesn't seem to have perpetual: 44.Qd8+ Kh7 45.Qh4+ Kg6 46.Qg4+ Kf6 47.Qh4 Kf7 48.Qh5 Qg6.

C.1.b) 43.Qd3 Bxd1+ 44.Rxd1 Qf2+ (44... Qxd3+ 45.Kxd3 and the white king is ready to control the light squares around the passed pawns)

C.1.b.i) 45.Rd2 e4+ wins decisive material.

C.1.b.ii) 45.Qd2 e4+ followed by Qxd2, f3, Bd4 (or Bh6) looks winning.

C.1.b.iii) 45.Kc1 Qxc5+ with three connected pawns for the exchange looks winning.

C.1.b.iv) 45.Kc3 e4+ wins.

C.1.b.v) 45.Kb1 Qd4 (45... g2 46.Qd8+ Kh7 47.Qd3+ (47.Qh4+ Qxh4) 47... Kh6 48.Rd6+ Kg5 49.Qg6+ Kh4 50.Rd1 Qg3 51.Qh7+ looks bad for Black) to create mate threats (with e4) and trade queens because the white king is not near the passed pawns.

C.2) 39.Ke2 Qxe4+ 40.Be3 f3+ 41.Ke1 f2+ 42.Ke2 Bg4+ 43.Kf1 Qh1#.

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  agb2002: I didn't remember this game but it seems I had problems with Qd8+ again.

According to Stockfish, after 37... Nxe4 38.Qd8+ Black loses the advantage.

Apr-23-16  schachfuchs: Yes, like an Englishman I would transform this (not really) very difficult Saturday puzzle 35....? into an insane Sunday 30....?
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  Once: Now that's a weird sensation. It seems that I was here in October 2008. That's 7 and a half years ago. Where did those years go?

I didn't fully solve it this time either.

Apr-23-16  WorstPlayerEver: Well, found it pretty complicated in practise. I noticed all these White pieces cluttered together and was so impressed by it that I totally ignored the weakness of f3. Oh well..
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  kevin86: A fine attack by black.
Apr-23-16  The Kings Domain: Good puzzle. Gotta get rid of that pesky horse.
Apr-23-16  devere: After 35...Rxd2+ 36.Qxd2 Qxf3+ 37.Ke1, the best move seems to be 37...Bf6 keeping the White queen out of d8

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Then can follow 38.Qe2 Qg2 39.Rd3 (if 39.Kd2 gxf2 40.Kc2 Nxe4 and White can't capture the knight either way due to 41...f1=Q) f3 40.Qe3 Nxe4 41.Nxe4 gxf2+ 42.Nxf2 Bg5

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White can throw in 43.Rd8+ Kf7 if he wants, but then he is out of reasonable checks and Black wins.

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  Longview: Not bad <Once> good survival in this day and age of competition!

Got the first move, calculated all but the response of white but it still fit what I intended but I was surprised by Q-g2. I was expecting Bg4+. I guess that is not as helpful as what was played.

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  alfiere nero: I'm out of my league here (although I did see the first couple of moves), but isn't 40 Qd3 better than Qd8 in the actual game?
Apr-23-16  mel gibson: This game shows the power of a Rook
to enter the game and completely smash up the opponent.

35... Rxd2
I saw it immediately.

Apr-24-16  gabriel112000: I solved it!
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  CHESSTTCAMPS: Black's down a full rook, but white's king is in full flight. It's not hard to see that black has at least a draw, starting with 35... Rxd2+, but beyond the first couple of alternatives, it stops being easy:

A.36.Rxd2 Qxf3#

B.36.Kxd2 Nxf3+ 37.Kc2 Nxe1+ 38.Bxe1 (Rxe1 Qg2 39.Kb1/Rf1 gxf2 is winning by at least a piece) Bg4 39.Rd8+ Kh7 40.Bxg3 (otherwise 40...g2 wins) Qg2+ 41.Rd2 Qxg4 is effectively a piece ahead and has a protected passed f-pawn.

B.1 38.Ke2 Nxe1 39.Rxe1 (Bxe1 Bg4+ wins Rd1) Qg2 wins the pinned bishop as in first parenthesized main line.

C.36.Qxd2 Qxf3+ 37.Ke1 Qh1+ is certainly at least a draw. After 37... gxf2+ 38.Qxf2 appears to hold. The strongest continuation appears to be 37... Qg2 threatening both 38... Qf1# and Nf3+. Best I can find is 38.Qd8+ Kh7 39.Kd2 (not Qxg4 Qxf2#) Qxf2+ 40.Kd3 Qe3+ 41.Kc2 f3 and the passers appear to be winning.

Time for review...

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  CHESSTTCAMPS: I also considered 39... gxf2 40.Rf1 (numbering without the repetition of moves) but missed the strength of Nf3+.
Apr-25-16  TheBish: Amazing finish.
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