|Dec-01-04|| ||notsodeepthought: 82 N:e4 is a spectacular way to draw - I don't know if it would have been drawn anyway, but it's more fun this way... |
|Dec-01-04|| ||Pawsome: White is on his toes then on the ropes for last 9 rounds. Exciting chess, but not as exciting as Stripunsky-Fishbein from the same round. |
|Dec-02-04|| ||RisingChamp: Check out Serpers bishop maneuvers starting with 17 Be1 to 25 Bd2.wonder why he did do all that I wonder maybe he wanted to make Nakamura get overconfident or maybe just make him spend time,It didnt really seem to work though |
|Dec-02-04|| ||AdrianP: This is hilarious - I reckon Serper had a bet with someone that he could draw with Nakamura without leaving any of his pieces over the halfway line for longer than a move. Play the game through and you'll see what I mean...! |
|Dec-02-04|| ||RisingChamp: yeah you are right highly imaginative chess by Serper-I really loved the bishop manouevring-normally Grandmaster waiting moves are less obvious than that but less entertaining also. |
|Dec-02-04|| ||SimonBrazil: The Serper-Nakamura game has to go down as one of more bizarre things we've seen on a chessboard in a while. Serper clearly wasn't interested in a long day on the stage, despite having white against a co-leader. He set up a solid symmetrical formation and on move 17 he started moving his bishop back and forth between d2 and e1. For nine moves in a row!|
Grigory Serper (left) sitting tight for a draw against Nakamura
"We may never know if this was an ugly way to play for a draw, a strange way to gain time on the clock, or a brilliant try and get Nakamura to create weaknesses in his position," says the official tournament report. Whatever it was, Nakamura ignored it and expanded on the queenside, eventually breaking through. But there was no way to gain a decisive advantage in the position and despite pressing for 94 moves (!), Nakamura finally had to give up the half point that Serper had wanted 80 moves earlier. To top it off, it finished in a stalemate after Serper played a cute piece sacrifice to create a book draw fortress. Time will tell if Nakamura has all the qualities of a world champion, but it's already clear the teen has the tenacity of a world-beater.
Serper,G (2542) - Nakamura,H (2620) [D12]
2005 US Chessmaster Championship San Diego (6), 30.11.2004
82.Nxe4! Kxe4 83.Kf1 Be5 84.Kg1 Kd3 85.e4 Ke3 86.Kf1 Kd4 87.Kg1 Kc4 88.Kh1 Kd3 89.Kg1 Ke2 90.Kh1 Bd4 91.e5 Bxe5 92.Kg1 Ke1 93.Kh1 Kf2 94.h4 gxh4 ½-½
|Dec-02-04|| ||Pawsome: Maybe this one should be dubbed "The Immortal Rope-a-Dope Game." |
|Dec-03-04|| ||Hidden Skillz: this game should be for them both one of their notable games.. |
|Feb-07-05|| ||siu02jm: Guys i still don't get this; why not 29...♘xd3 after 29.♖xc7 ?
What wrong with the exchange of 2 ♖s for a ♕? |
|Feb-07-05|| ||cu8sfan: <siu02jm> Usually two ♖s are superior to a ♕. The value of a ♖ is about 5 ♙s, the value of a ♕ is about 9 ♙s. Of course these values depend on the position etc. but I'd prefer two well-coordinated ♖♖ to a ♕ anytime. |
|Feb-07-05|| ||aw1988: Serper clearly aiming to draw the entire game. Despite the fact he (Nakamura) won the next day against Ibragimov (I think) this game got him really annoyed. Nxe4!! was a work of genius. |
|Feb-07-05|| ||csmath: This was a rather funny game to watch. It is sad that a supposedly strong GM like Serper would resort to this kind of game trying to sqeeze the draw as white but that is what he did. Nakamura almost got him but the ending was not to be.
I wonder what was the ambition Serper played with there? If you cannot play for a win as white why would you like to play anywhere at all? |
|Nov-28-07|| ||SBGiffy: Anyone put this game up for the daily puzzle? (after black's 81st).|
|Aug-15-09|| ||WhiteRook48: Nxe4!!|
|Mar-09-10|| ||I LOVE P......assant: hi im new just wondering why its a draw as its white to move in the end and cant go to g1 cause will be taken with king or h2 with pawn so isnt that good play by black & should be rewarded?|
it probably sounds stupid to you's (if thats a word) but im at a loss to why that is i wiki'd it & still doesnt make sense
|Mar-13-10|| ||Yodaman: <I LOVE P......assant> In chess, if it's your turn and there isn't a legal move for you to make then it's a draw. You're probably thinking of checkers where if this happens then your opponent wins, but this is not the case in chess. In chess it is a draw.|
|Apr-09-10|| ||I LOVE P......assant: yodaman thanks for that but ive been playing for over a month now and understand it a bit better ive never played checkers so i wasnt comparing it i just thought (and still do by the way) that black has done well to back the white into a position where if he moves he loses and should be rewarded for that!|
i looked up some other possible rules that could be used that were put forward by (TOP CHESS PPL) and the 1 i liked best was 5 ways of winning and losing which would near enough get rid of the (more draws than winning trend that happens in top tournaments just now) which are
2 slight win
4 slight lose
in this case black would be a slight win (there is another possibility chess could change the rule to force a checkmate unless both agree to draw )
anyway thanks for replying im sure alot more people would play chess if it was a bit more exciting (not as much draws) it would also bring more money to chess also (sponsership) im sure alot of people agree with me and im just wondering when if at all these rules will be changed?
|Jun-18-11|| ||wordfunph: Serper - Nakamura
click for larger view
quote of the game..
"He offered me a draw on move 13, right before he was about to begin his bishop d2 to e1 and back manoeuvre. It was actually quite frustrating, it was like saying, I want a draw and I am not going to try and win. He is a strong grandmaster and he is white. It's understandable but I don't quite understand why you want to do that."
- Hikaru Nakamura
(NIC Magazine 2005/01)