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|Jan-02-15|| ||Ratt Boy: Agreeing with others, that this one was pretty easy for a Friday.
And, for that, I thank CG.com.|
|Jan-02-15|| ||fokers13: hardly "difficult" Nd4 is both forced and strong(queen fork and all) and the continuation thereafter is too simplistic|
better fit for a wednesday.
|Jan-02-15|| ||Penguincw: Hmm. The rook's hanging on f8, so let's grab it. Oh nvm, black's threatening mate on e2.|
The solution I came up was close: 38.Rg5+ Ke4 39.Qb7+ Kd3 40.Qxf3# 1-0. Just one flaw: 39...d5, and there is no mate.
Not really hard for a Friday puzzle when I come close to solving it.
|Jan-02-15|| ||paulalbert: Agree with comments that this seemed easy for Friday. It must be if I can solve it quickly!|
|Jan-02-15|| ||patzer2: I'll confess I missed this Friday puzzle. I quickly calculated 38. Nd4+ exd4 39. Rg5+ Kf4|
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However, in visualizing this position two moves ahead, I did not see the mate-in-two finish (i.e. 40. Qxd6+! Ke3/e4 41. Qxd4#) to this mate-in-four.
To make matters worse, I gave up on this line and instead went for 38. Ng3+?? which loses to 38...Kf4! (not 38...Kg4?? 39. Ne2+! ) 39. Qxf8 Qxc3+ 40. Kf2 Qd2+ 41. Kf1 Qd1+ 42.
Kf2 Qd4+ 43. Kf1 Bg4 44. Ne2+ Bxe2+ 45. Kxe2 Qe3+ 46. Kd1 Qxg1+ (-8.91 @ 20 depth, Fritz 12).
P.S.: I have no problem quickly seeing the mate-in-two when looking at the diagram above. However, trying to see it four moves ahead from this Friday daily puzzle position (38. ?) was (at least for me) much more difficult.
|Jan-02-15|| ||Prudov: <paulalbert: Agree with comments that this seemed easy for Friday. It must be if I can solve it quickly!>
I agree too. Only a few variations to consider.|
|Jan-02-15|| ||maxi: Never mind if the problem is difficult or not, the tactics are very pretty.|
|Jan-02-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: 38. Nd4+!
Not too "Shaby" :)
|Jan-02-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: <An Englishman: Good Evening: <posoo>, I pull no one's chain. I might be an Englishman or an English man, but I do not presently live in England.>|
Where, then? Ulan Bator?
|Jan-02-15|| ||kevin86: Black's king is marched into opposition...and mate!|
|Jan-02-15|| ||TheaN: Friday 2 January 2015 <38.?>|
Odd for a Friday. White has only one real sensible puzzle move, and the ensuing forcing line is nothing compared to what we're used of a Friday puzzle.
White prevents the black mate in one threat (Qxe2#) by forking queen, bishop and king, forcing black to open the e-file. Big pieces decide afterwards: <38.Nd4+ (Ke4/Kf4 39.Nxc2 ) exd4 39.Rg5+ Kf4 40.Qxd6+ Ke3/Ke4 41.Qxd4# 1-0>. Again, odd.
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|Jan-02-15|| ||TheaN: I find the discussion going into 31....Bxc2?! more interesting than the puzzle. This move is in fact winning:|
If 32.Qa7+ Rb7 (missed by user <consul>) wins, as it keeps the threats alive and the white queen is en prise. After the 'best' 32.Bxf8 Be4 white can't defend mate in a sensible manner, and 32.Kxc2 Bxh6 is equally as crushing.
Interestingly, if Black does decide to move the king to e6; 32.Qa7+ Ke6? it leads to a similar move as in the puzzle:
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After 33.Nf4+! (though 32.Qxb8 does draw too it has less play for white) white at least draws by exposing the e-file: 33....exf4 34.Qxb8 Bxh6 35.Qg8+ Ke5 32.Qxd5+ Kxd5 33.Kxc2 Ke6:
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White is up the exchange but has to play carefully to trade his now weak f6-pawn for the d-pawn with 34.Rd1! yet that position is far from over.
|Jan-02-15|| ||BOSTER: When white play 23.Nde2 I guess this was idea to support an other knight on c3.|
I think this is very popular idea after the game Karpov vs Korchnoi,1974.
So, the question is:
Why did Shabalov change his mind and played 29.bxc3,not Nxc3, opening the "b" file ,when his king was on a1.
Certainly, he could lose another pawn,but not the king in couple moves.
|Jan-02-15|| ||consul: Thank you <TheaN>, I really missed the ♖b7 move and also the ♘f4.|
|Jan-02-15|| ||jheiner: I missed the obvious line. Instead followed the immediate check with the R and forcing a fun mating net with a pleasing final move.|
38.Rg5+ Ke4 39.Qb7+ Ke3 40.Qb6+ Kd3 41.Qxd6+ Ke3 42.Rxe5+ Be4 43.Qd4+ Kf3 44.Qf2+ Kg4 45.Rg5+ Kh3 46 Nf4#
There are a few variants, but mostly forced. I looked at up to 40.Qb6+ before deciding it was good enough. (It wasn't.)
|Jan-02-15|| ||gars: Very beautiful! I did not solve it, but who cares?|
|Jan-02-15|| ||varishnakov: 38.N-Q4+ PxN 39.R-N5+ K-B5 40.QxP+ K-K6 41.QxP mate
Knight sac that must be accepted because threatens to win queen. Opens position. King chase. Mate.
For me also this seemed easier than the previous this week.
No tricky defensive moves; all forced.
|Jan-02-15|| ||Sokrates: The position before the combination almost looks as a constructed problem. The mate combination is beautiful and subtly depending on the pawn on c3. - It's quite amusing to read how some people find it necessary to state how quickly and easily they solved the problem.|
|Jan-02-15|| ||HowDoesTheHorsieMove: My first Friday success! I missed that the final white move was a capture, having lost track of the pawn, but I moved all the pieces right.|
|Jan-02-15|| ||patzer2: Played through this game with my five year old grandson, who thoroughly enjoyed it. He especially liked that it was an aggressive all out mating attack on the flanks by both the WGM and GM.|
When we got to the puzzle solution position (38. Nd4+), we fast forwarded to the end of the combination to 40...Ke3 where I let him find the mate-in-one with 41. Qxd4#.
From there, we backed it up to mate-in-two (i.e. 40. Qxd6+), mate-in-three (i.e. 39. RN5+) and finally to mate-in-four or win the Queen with 38. Nd4+!
After a few attempts, he understood the full four move combination and declared himself a "super puzzle solver."
|Jan-03-15|| ||dfcx: this is way too easy for a "difficult" solution. Black is threatening mate, so white is forced to act!
38.Nd4+ exd4 (otherwise loses the queen).
|Jan-03-15|| ||stst: Try
38.Nd4+ exd4 (else if K flees, N takes Q and Black has no play at all.)
39. Rg5+ Kf4 (forced)
40. Qxd6+ Ke4/e5
not sure if I missed anything....
|Jan-03-15|| ||stst: my typo for
|Jan-03-15|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: <thegoodanarchist>, no, but Ulan Bator has always been one of my favorite place names.|
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