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Ivan Ivanov vs Grigor Minchev
"Ivan Off" (game of the day Jan-24-2005)
Open (1992), ?
Goldsmith Defense: General (B00)  ·  0-1
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Jan-24-05  Saruman: <MO> 8.gxh3 was bad but Re1 allows 8.-hxg2 and the kingside is very weak. Instead white should have tried 8.g3. For instance; 8.-Bc5 9.Nc3 a5 10.Be3 Bxe3 11.fxe3 ( ).
Jan-24-05  artemis: <saruman> a idea with Re1 and hxg2 is to not take back on g2, giving the king the best protection of a pawn which cannot be taken. It is likely to fail, interesting, although likely ineffective is 8. Re1 hxg2 9. Bf4 Qh4 10. Bg3 in an attempt to hide the king. I like g3 much better than hxg3 though, and if faced with this position, I might play it instead of Re1.
Jan-24-05  Saruman: <artemis> I had considered that and we seem to think quite the same. But Im wondering how long white can allow the pawn to stay on g2. Sooner or later black will develop dangerous threats along the h-file with ♖+♕.
Jan-24-05
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  kevin86: This game is a pun! Black's opener hits white like a ton of bricks-and he never recoveres his sanity.

The game ends with mate at g1 or loss of the white queen.

Jan-24-05  Eatman: Igor is an extremely talented player, unfortunately he shares the same fondness for the green dragon that many of his ex-country men do. At a last round of a San Diego weekender some 5-6 years ago, I had to face him in the last round. He completely outplayed me positionally, but I managed to mix things up a little and got lucky. Well, he was not in the best "condition" in that game either. You have to consider that Igor was 2500 player in early 80s, which would be equivalent to 2600 or so today. He was most deserving of a GM title.
Jan-24-05  Madman99X: The defensive move 6.h3 comes to mind. After that it seems that the overextended pawn has nothing to do but sit there and look ugly. Any thoughts on this?
Jan-24-05  Madman99X: Correction: 5.h3 would be the more appropriate place for that move.
Jan-24-05  Stonewaller2: Absinthe maketh the heart grow fonder.
Jan-24-05  BlazingArrow56: Eatman, are you saying Igor plays after smoking ganja?
Jan-24-05  GreenDayGuy: I would like to explore this opening, or is the Uncommon King's Pawn Opening refer to any uncommon move?
Jan-24-05  GreenDayGuy: I also think that white played a terrible game. He was down two whole pieces! Amazing.
Jan-24-05  MatrixManNe0: 1... h5 should have easily been stopped... I think the obvious 2. d4 would have done it... lol.

What was 2. Be2?!

White should have taken the pawn or castled queenside (duh! h5?! c'mon!).

Jan-24-05  square dance: why would you castle kingside against 1...h5? that is the mistake of a five year old.
Jan-24-05  Knezh: <Eatman> Which Igor are you talking about??
Mar-10-05  dankem: <Eatman> First of all, his name is Grigor. He is a Bulgarian, not a Russian. You were saying???
Apr-28-05  ArturoRivera: i suggest instead of Be2... 2.-h4!!!
Jul-12-05  fgh: 1. ... h5? I hope he didn't mean this opening seriously. But white didn't play very well, so his loss is not surprising at all.
Aug-15-05  molle2006: Why did white castle kingside? Black's h5 is the first step to break the white pawn shield.
Mar-14-07
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  Marmot PFL: <The defensive move 6.h3 comes to mind. After that it seems that the overextended pawn has nothing to do but sit there and look ugly. Any thoughts on this? > I couldn't understand it either. Why let you kingside get broken up like that? This looks like an ICC 1 minute game.
Mar-14-07
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  shalgo: <First of all, his name is Grigor. He is a Bulgarian, not a Russian. You were saying???>

I think that Eatman was assuming that the player of the white pieces was Igor Ivanov, the (late) well-known IM.

Jul-23-08
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  whiteshark: Without any doubt White lost here due to premature castling.
Apr-05-09  WhiteRook48: <about 2. d4 working against 1. e4 h5> Not really. If you look in the Opening Explorer, you will find that 2. d4 against 1...h5 are all losses for white.
May-11-09  WhiteRook48: I suggest 2 h4 to stop the pawn advancing
Aug-07-09  WhiteRook48: 2 Bc4
4 0-0?? was the error
Nov-21-11  squaresquat: You people are all wrong. It's the lack of imagination that comes from being so dependent on computers. Be2 is absolutely the right move; it's not often the KB has such a great post so soon. The mistake was 6.Nxd. White needed to seize the black squares with 6.Bg5. If...Be7; then Qd2 and if f6,then white squares are weak.
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