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Vladimir Kramnik vs Veselin Topalov
Corus Chess Tournament 2005  ·  Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen Variation. English Attack (B90)  ·  0-1


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Dec-12-05   Steppenwolf: Kramnik plays like a B group beginner in this game. Queen nearly lost on a3, pawn structure demolished by move 18, piece lost at the end, all that in 20 moves. Kramnik obviously not in the same league as Topalov! Kramnik's "title" has become a joke, a fraud, the laughing stock of all masters.
Dec-12-05   ughaibu: The way these characters carry on you'd think it was some kind of rarity. Ignorance is bliss, get stoned on Kramnik bashing. Game Collection: World champions lose miniatures 1. Game Collection: World champions lose miniatures 2.
Dec-12-05   Steppenwolf: How, a kramnik lover! Must feel loneley these days.
Dec-12-05   Akavall: <ughaibu> In two out of your three Morphy games, Morphy was giving material odds! And he was not a World Champion, at least official.
Dec-12-05   Akavall: I agree though, every World Champion, had lost miniature.

Christiansen vs Karpov, 1993
and
Huzman vs Kasparov, 2003

Are shining examples.

Dec-12-05   Akavall: *cringes*, Neither Karpov, nor Kasparov were WCs in those games.

Karpov vs Garriga, 1976
and
Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997

Dec-12-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: <ughaibu: ... Ignorance is bliss, get stoned on Kramnik bashing.>

My favorite high.

Dec-14-05   s4life: <acirce: Before, it was soon after Corus.

An implicit part of my point was exactly how he changed in this regard the moment he became World Champion. But I liked the pre-San Luis Topalov a lot.>

It's all politics heheh. I am sure if you became champion you'd end up being a d#$k too, as opossed to a schmuk (which is how champion d@#ks refer to everybody else).

Dec-20-05   itz2000: 12 Qxb4 is defently a mistake in my opinion for white..

I might be wrong though.

Jan-01-06   THE pawn: <akavall><morphy gave odds> it doesn't matter, take a look at the first one, he took off the board a rook, but even if he had it, it wouldn't have made the slightest difference, he lost fair and square if you ask me.
Jan-04-06   stephenw: someone should let Kramnik know that there is someone impersonating him and playing awful chess!
Jan-19-06   Whitehat1963: Ouch!!
Mar-21-06   alexandrovm: Kramnik just killed himself here, trapping his own knight. Maybe Bc3 was the final mistake...
May-20-06   walker: was kramnik sick during this game? i don't expect him to play like this in september.
May-29-06   madlydeeply: Topa sets up Reshevsky's double octopus on move 16 ...Ne5 and four moves later: game over.

One day you fools shall understand!!

Sep-17-06   silenthinker: topalov a solid player, counter attack kramnik a risky one, tactician.
Oct-04-06   babywizard: I would just like to point out some improvements on some analysis that <Hesam7> had made and claimed a (+0.4) advantage to white. <Hesam7> gave, with the help of Fruit, the line

13. Nc3 Qc7 14. Bf4 d5 15. Bxe5 Qxe5 16. Qa5 Be7 17. Kb1 O-O 18. exd5 Rfb8 19. a3 Nxd5 20. Nxd5 exd5 21. h4 Bd8 22. Qc5 Be7 (eval : +0.40)

But 19...Nxd5 is wrong. The correct move is 19...Bd8! 20.Qc5 Rc8 21.f4 Qxf4 22.Nc6 exd5 23.Qd4 Qxd4 24.Nxd4 Ba5! and black will be a pawn up with better piece coordination.

Oct-13-06   Lt. Col. Majid: <notyetagm: <KingG: ... I don't understand why he feels the need to behave like a jerk just because he's had a bit of success recently.> This proves that Topalov is the true successor of Kasparov. :-)>

W-R-O-N-G!!!

King Kramnik is the true successor to Kasparov, a lineage which goes back to Capablanca, Lasker and Stenitz.

Kramnik - the comeback kid came back from terrible illness to pick up from where he left off by continuing to be Topalov's daddy!

Oct-14-06   Whitehat1963: My favorite game between Kramnik and Topalov!
Oct-15-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Karpova: A stupid blunder by Kramnik who was ill at that time making this game a favourite? Well, i prefer high-level chess.
Topalov vs Kramnik, 2001
Oct-15-06   square dance: <Kramnik obviously not in the same league as Topalov! Kramnik's "title" has become a joke, a fraud, the laughing stock of all masters.> hmm, good thing he took topalov's "title" then. wouldnt you say?
Aug-10-07   KamikazeAttack: I am really cracking up reading these old posts LMAOO.

We had a blast of a time post-Elista here.

Oct-07-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: <KamikazeAttack: I am really cracking up reading these old posts LMAOO. We had a blast of a time post-Elista here.>

Who's laughing now? :-)

Jan-08-09   fromoort: I'm laughing quite a bit.
Jun-15-09   Moses2792796: "Overall record: Vladimir Kramnik beat Veselin Topalov 25 to 14"
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