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|Sep-16-12|| ||Xeroxx: omg! i thought that> bishop was gonna go back and forth forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|
|Sep-16-12|| ||sushijunkie: Didn't Ulf himself have an incredible waiting move win as Black? I swear it was him and much like Basman here.|
|Sep-16-12|| ||master of defence: Isn´t 46.Rh1 best than 46.Qxd5?|
|Sep-16-12|| ||kellmano: 46. Rh1 then .....Re3 looks brutal|
|Mar-30-13|| ||vinidivici: 44...c5 is a brave move...i think.
I prefer 44...Qf5 at once.
The superficial calculation from Ulf cost him a match. 45.Qxc5?? is an error. Just like we have seen the white kings side camp destroyed by the black queen because the white queen doesnt occupy the important 3rd rank anymore.
45.dxc5! sure white the equality or even a slightly better. (this maybe havent done by Ulf because fearing 45...d4, but the threat is no nothing).
<master of defence: Isn´t 46.Rh1 best than 46.Qxd5?> Nope. Read under!
after 45.dxc5 if 45...Qf5 , white has 46.Rh1 and black getting nowhere. draw.
See the different!! With the white queen at c5, 46.Rh1 becomes impossible due to 46...Re3 47.Kg2 Rxf3 48.Kxf3 Qe4+...0-1
|Mar-30-13|| ||al wazir: 51...Re2+ also looks strong, e.g., 52. Kf1 Qf4+ 53. Kg1 Qf2+ 54. Kh1 Qxh4+ 55. Kg1 Re1+ 56. Bf1 Be2.|
|Mar-30-13|| ||shakespeare: 45.Qxc5 is an outright blunder - why not take a passed pawn if your opponent deliberately gives you one?|
|Mar-30-13|| ||Abdel Irada: "Psychologically clever" or not, I think Basman scored an unearned run here. |
If your opponent makes moves that don't change the position, accurate play should allow you to improve until you have an advantage. To determine exactly where Andersson went astray in this attempt would require some study, but I cannot readily accept that he *could* not have found a way to take useful advantage of Black's piece-shuffling.
|Mar-30-13|| ||morfishine: What I found amusing was Black shuffled his WSB back and forth countless times. It was a joy and relief when he finally ceased. However, he then proceeded to do the same thing with his Queen (21...Qd6 & 22...Qd8), this time only once, just enough to annoy everyone|
Innervating yet amusing
|Mar-30-13|| ||Ratt Boy: <schnarre>: <sitzkrieg> "1...a6, 2...b5 is the normal line for the St George Defense…Miles used it to defeat Karpov as well."
I have a book in which Karpov calls it "Incorrect Opening." Geez, do ya THINK he was bitter about losing to the St. George?|
|Mar-30-13|| ||keypusher: <Ratt Boy: <schnarre>: <sitzkrieg> "1...a6, 2...b5 is the normal line for the St George Defense…Miles used it to defeat Karpov as well." I have a book in which Karpov calls it "Incorrect Opening." Geez, do ya THINK he was bitter about losing to the St. George?>|
No, not particularly. He had plenty of other crushes of Miles playing crappy defenses to console himself with. I suppose the millionth time some fish said <golly, Miles beat Karpov with 1....a6!!!!> he might have gotten a little exasperated.
|Mar-30-13|| ||IndigoViolet: My pun, my pun...<pats self on head>.|
|Mar-30-13|| ||kevin86: Mate will come soon!|
|Mar-30-13|| ||MarkThornton: A very strange game, with a massive degree of provocation by Black. Basman is a good player and must have known that his strange plan of ...a6, ...Ra7, ...Ba8 should lead to a big advantage for White after <14.f3> and <15.e4>. So why did he play this way? |
My best guess is that Basman had noticed that Andersson had played similar positions poorly in the past. In particular, perhaps Basman had noticed that Andersson had been reluctant to adopt a plan involving e4, which is the obvious way to take advantage of Black's loss of time.
It would be great to hear from someone who was a competitor in that Hastings tournament, so that we can all learn what was going on in this game.
|Mar-30-13|| ||ajile: If you are Black and your position has reached it's best potential then why commit to weakening moves? Psychologically White is at a disadvantage here since he is supposed to push the game based on first move.|
So Black just sits back and waits for White to overreach the position and create weaknesses in his own camp.
|Mar-30-13|| ||dumbgai: What, Basman played a real opening? It's not April 1 yet, is it?|
|Mar-31-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <So Black just sits back and waits for White to overreach the position and create weaknesses in his own camp.>|
Or to continue patiently improving his position until he can punish you properly.
Basman's "strategy" was pure five-minute garbage; it reminds me of the way someone I used to know in Santa Cruz "won" a lot of his blitz games. I hope Andersson later (and often) found opportunities to exact crushing and humiliating revenge.
|Mar-31-13|| ||Mr.Pass: I am pretty sure this game is actually:
Mr. Pass - Munchausen
|Apr-01-13|| ||WannaBe: Stupid iPad, when i click on that 4745 1974, it thinks it's a phone number, and asks me if I want to add it to contacts.|
|Aug-25-13|| ||whiteshark: immortal waiting game
|Nov-28-14|| ||yurikvelo: http://pastebin.com/pxqH5wj4
this game multiPV analysis
|Jun-10-15|| ||SpiritedReposte: Some games are just all out attacks, sacrificing material for tempi and never stopping to defend.|
On the other side of the spectrum you have this game. White just advances and breaks himself on the rock that is Basman's position!
|Sep-29-17|| ||Magpye: Amazing game!!|
|May-30-18|| ||Saniyat24: If 54.Rh3 then either Black Queen takes Rook, then White Queen can guard the bishop with Qg2, or if after 54.Rh3 black Rook takes bishop and gives check to the White King, the King can capture the Rook, then black Queen takes Rook, but then both sides will have Queen each, albeit Black would have a better position, but play could have continued, no?|
|Nov-01-18|| ||Zibbit: Such a weird game from a psychological standpoint. I had some analysis on this game here: https://youtu.be/cfAzWnceUzQ along with info on how Magnus Carlsen's knowledge of this game was interesting!|
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