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| Oct-21-06 | | percyblakeney: <and white is two pieces up> Make that one piece... |
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| Oct-21-06 | | percyblakeney: <What happens after 14...Nd4 15. Qxh8+ Ke7; 16. Qxh7> The problem after Ke7 is that white in many lines can play Qh4+, picking up the g4 knight. If <14. ... Nd4 15. Qxh8+> black should play <Kd7> to avoid this. After <Qxh7> black can then play <Qg2> with mate threat, to be followed by <Nxh2> and white's <Qxf7+> will be followed by <Kc6>. I'd never see such lines in a real game and think 14. ... Nd4 was a much "safer" win... |
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| Oct-21-06 | | percyblakeney: <In that case what about 16. ... Rh8 reoffering the remaining rook?> Looks good, even if white's 17. Nc3 seems to keep him alive. |
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| Oct-21-06 | | rigel1503: well actually, white has one try in maintaining cover for c2, but black can still come out on top: 14.
Qxg7 Nd4 15. Qxh8+ Ke7 16. Qxh7 Rh8 17. Nc3!? Rxh7 18. Nxd5+ exd5 19. Kd1
Rxh2 20. e3 Nf2+ 21. Ke1 Nc2+ 22. Ke2 Nd3+ 23. Kf3 Nxa1---IF 21. Rxf2 then
21. ... Rh1+ 22. Rf1 Rxf1# However, when all is said and done, Beliavsky 14. Nxh2!! is the strongest |
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| Oct-21-06 | | TrueBlue: 22 e3 not best defence I think .... |
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Oct-21-06
 | | ahmadov: One can see with a naked eye that 16.Qxa8 was wrong. The white was just greedy without heeding coming dangers. |
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| Oct-21-06 | | GufeldStudent: If Qxh7 then Rh8. the queen is either trapped or the mate still happens on c2 |
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| Oct-21-06 | | GufeldStudent: Oh, then Nc3. Yeah, Nd4 does not work. |
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| Oct-21-06 | | KOCCMOHAYT: adolf andersen or that kind oh player. Piece of art
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Oct-22-06
 | | kevin86: A classic two rook sac and king hunt. In 1985! Always good to see both! |
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| May-26-07 | | Zorts: Why didn't white play 22.Rxh2? |
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| May-28-07 | | Halfpricemidge: 22.Rxh2 is winning for white, causing black's king-hunt to backfire. Black, however could've moved 19...Qxf2!! |
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| May-28-07 | | spin: if 22. Rxh2, then 22... Nxa5+ (not a possibility in the game because of the Rook attacking the queen) and either 23.Kxa5 or 23.Kc5 will be followed with mate. |
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| May-29-07 | | Zorts: <Spin 22...Nxa5+> Excellent! Didn't see that-thanx for the analysis. |
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| Jun-28-07 | | Halfpricemidge: Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't 13.Nd3+ win much faster?, about 5 moves thereafter? |
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Jun-28-07
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Halfpricemidge: Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't 13...Nd3+ win much faster?, about 5 moves thereafter?> An interesting idea. After 14.exd3 cxd3 15.Qxg7? Qg2 16.Nc3 Nb4 there is a forced mate (computer line): 17.Qxh8+ Ke7 18.Nd5+ exd5 19.Qe5+ Kd7 20.Qf5+ Kc6 and White can do nothing. Even 21.Qxd3 Nxd3+ 22.Kd1 Qxf1+ 23.Kc2 Nb4+ 24.Kb3 Qc4+ 25.Ka4 Nc2+ 26.b4 Qxb4# is a mate. However, White seems to be saved by the defensive 15.Na3! While Black still has a lot of compensation for the piece, and might well be better, the attack doesn't crush through directly. |
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| Jun-29-07 | | Zorts: Thanx for the analysis but what about 13...Nd3+ 14.exd3 cxd3 15.Qxg7 Qe4+!! 16.Kf2 Nd4 17.Qxh8+ Kd7 18.Qxa8 Qf3+! 19.Kg1 Ne2# ? |
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Jun-29-07
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Zorts> Doesn't work. White has no need to take both rooks: 18.Nc3 instead of Qxa8 seems to leave him with an advantage. And 17.Nc3 is even stronger. So, it's 15...Qe4+? (and 16...Nd4??) instead of '...Qe4+!!' and 15...Qg2! is the right move. |
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| Jun-29-07 | | Zorts: <SwitchingQuylthelg> You are correct, 15...Qg2! in response to 15.Qxg7, very cool game and analysis. |
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| Dec-09-08 | | dwavechess: 21/26 Beliavsky`s moves concur with Rybka 3 at 3 minutes per move. |
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| Dec-09-08 | | Chessdreamer: The moves 24.Kd4 Nhf3+ 25.Rxf3 Nxf3+ 26.Ke4 Qd5# were not played, White resigned after 23...Qb5+. |
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| Dec-11-08 | | dwavechess: Thanks, I didnt know.How do you know? |
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| Jan-05-09 | | WhiteRook48: I'm a bit crazy, but how about continuing with 26. Kc3? |
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| Dec-17-09 | | Skakalec: 26.Kc3 Qb3# |
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| May-05-10 | | SpiritedReposte: This game looks like it should be dated 1895 not 1985. |
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