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Thomas E Rendle vs Vasilios Kotronias
Gibraltar Masters (2005)  ·  Bird Opening: From Gambit. Lasker Variation (A02)  ·  0-1
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Mar-23-09  niemzo: In this game, my computer suggests, 14.e5
Bxe5 15.Bxc6, when bxc6 is not good because of Qa6+. But after 15...Bd6! 16.Bg2 Rde8!, black should be fine, as he is bound to reclaim his piece and white's king position isn't enviable.
Jan-15-13
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  FSR: According to Houdini 3, 15...f4! leads to equality in all lines. Kotronias' 15...Qf7 16.0-0-0 Bxa2? should lose to 17.e5! Bxe5 (17...Be7 18.Bxc6! is no better) 18.Bxc6!
Feb-14-14  centralfiles: <FSR: According to Houdini 3, 15...f4! leads to equality in all lines.> What about 16.O-O-O!?
this move seems to put a question mark on the whole Froms gambit.
Feb-14-14
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  FSR: <centralfiles> Maybe. Houdini 3 gives 15... f4! 16. O-O-O (best) f3 17. Bf1 Bc5 18. Qc2 Bb6 19. Nc4 Bxc4 20. Bxc4 Na5 21. Bf1 c5 22. d5 c4 23. Bxb6 axb6 24. Kb1 b5 25. Rd4 Kb8 26. b3 Rd6 27. Kb2 Rc8 28. Qd1 b6 29. Qd2 Qe5 30. Qf4 Qxf4 31. gxf4 Rh8 32. e5 Rd7 33. e6 Re7 34. Rd2 g3 35. Rg1 Rxh2 36. Rxh2 gxh2 37. Rh1 Rh7 38. e7 Rxe7 39. Rxh2 Re1 40. Rf2 Re3 41. Kc2 cxb3+ 42. axb3 b4 43. cxb4 Nxb3 44. Bd3 Kc7=, but it wouldn't be shocking if you could find an improvement for White in there.

Of course, there are other lines that may also endanger the From's, like 5.d4 g4 6.Ne5! Bxe5 7.dxe5 Qxd1+ 8.Kxd1 and White is better in the ending. Probably Black should play 4...Nf6!? instead of 4...g5.

Feb-14-14
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  perfidious: <FSR: Of course, there are other lines that may also endanger the From's, like 5.d4 g4 6.Ne5! Bxe5 7.dxe5 Qxd1+ 8.Kxd1 and White is better in the ending. Probably Black should play 4...Nf6!? instead of 4...g5.>

The only time I faced the From accepted was in an online blitz game vs Rohde in 1996, featuring the ending above. He held the pawn and we wound up with all four rooks left, but it was unclear whether he had enough to win, though in the end he managed.

You are probably correct; at least 4....Nf6 seems worth a try, but I never faced 1.f4 after that.

Feb-14-14
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  FSR: <perfidious> I spent a lot of time analyzing this game and various possible deviations therefrom with Houdini. Fascinating tactics. One drawing line, incidentally, is 14.e5 Bxe5 15.Bxc6 Bg7 16.Bxb7+ Kxb7 17.Qb5+.
Feb-14-14  centralfiles: <FSR: Of course, there are other lines that may also endanger the From's, like 5.d4 g4 6.Ne5! Bxe5 7.dxe5 Qxd1+ 8.Kxd1 and White is better in the ending.> The weak isolated pawns seem more than enough compensation though.
Feb-14-14  centralfiles: <FSR: <centralfiles> Maybe. Houdini 3 gives 15... f4! 16. O-O-O (best) f3 17. Bf1 Bc5 18. Qc2 Bb6 19. Nc4 Bxc4 20. Bxc4 Na5 21. Bf1 c5 22. d5 c4 23. Bxb6 axb6 24. Kb1 b5 25. Rd4 Kb8 26. b3 Rd6 27. Kb2 Rc8 28. Qd1 b6 29. Qd2 Qe5 30. Qf4 Qxf4 31. gxf4 Rh8 32. e5 Rd7 33. e6 Re7 34. Rd2 g3 35. Rg1 Rxh2 36. Rxh2 gxh2 37. Rh1 Rh7 38. e7 Rxe7 39. Rxh2 Re1 40. Rf2 Re3 41. Kc2 cxb3+ 42. axb3 b4 43. cxb4 Nxb3 44. Bd3 Kc7=, but it wouldn't be shocking if you could find an improvement for White in there.>

There are way too many possibilities for me to analyze that far, but Fritz thinks White was better throughout. 36.Rc2 seems a much better try.

Feb-14-14
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  FSR: <centralfiles> Houdini also thinks White was better throughout that sequence, but if you keep playing the "best moves" for each side it peters out into that draw. Obviously there are innumerable possible improvements.
Feb-14-14  centralfiles: <FSR:> if you would do the same to the 5.d4 line you would quickly see white doesn't have much.
Feb-15-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <centralfiles> Perhaps. Tim Taylor in his book on the Bird's claims that it favors White. But in any case I play From's to mate the guy, so going into a slightly worse ending is not what I had in mind. Napetschnig (1677)-Rhine, Chicago 1977 went 1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nf3 g5 5.h3 Bg3#. Yes, Virginia, a genuine USCF-rated tournament game.
Feb-15-14  centralfiles: <FSR:1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nf3 g5 5.h3 Bg3#. Yes, Virginia, a genuine USCF-rated tournament game.> I got my fair share of those delicious quickes too
(admittedly not genuine rated games and not in 5 moves) but this particular line with Be3-Bf2 is giving me headaches.
Feb-16-14
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  FSR: <centralfiles> Probably like you, I have great affection for the From's because of all the games I've won with it. Apart from the above tournament game, all of them were Internet blitz games. Oh, and one offhand game against substitute teacher Peter Pantelidakis: 1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.b3?? Qh4+ 5.g3 Qxg3+ 6.hxg3 Bxg3# Pantelidakis-Rhine, Lane Tech, Chicago 1974.

Pantelidakis actually has an opening line named after him, the Pantelidakis Countergambit, 1.e4 e5 2.f4 f5, I believe so named because <Chess Life & Review> columnist Larry Melvyn Evans answered Pantelidakis' question about it in his column. Unfortunately for Pantelidakis, his Countergambit is usually misspelled "Panteldakis." https://www.google.com/#q=Pantelida...

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