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|Feb-23-07|| ||ounos: <jtd200> And to see that Black indeed loses a rook, one must see that, from the final position, Black can't trap the Bishop with 19. ... f6 and 20. ... Kf7, intending an eventual Rxh8, due to a timely Bc8, forking Black's unfortunate pieces.|
|Feb-23-07|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: And now for the single WORST move White can make:
(after 16.Rh1 follows 16...Qf2# because the king can no longer escape to h1)
|Feb-23-07|| ||zb2cr: Oddly, I saw this one in short order--less than 30 seconds. I spent more of my analysis time on 16. ... Qxe1; 17. Qxh8, Ke7; 18. Bg5+ than on 16. ... Qxd4; 17. Bh6+ etc. |
Feels good. I normally get Friday's puzzle roughly 50% of the time, so this is why it was odd to see it so quickly.
|Feb-23-07|| ||Ashram64: looks like a tuesday material|
|Feb-23-07|| ||TrueBlue: I got the line from the game, although not sure that white has a clear advantage ...|
|Feb-23-07|| ||another italian tony: 19... f7 isn't a move my friend.|
|Feb-23-07|| ||MiCrooks: zb2cr - then you missed the right continuation :) as Qxe1 Bh6+ leads to another quick mate as Kg8 Qg7++ or Ke8 Rxe1+ Kd8 Qf6++.|
I too think this seemed easy, but only because Qxd4 was so obvious. And once you get to Bh6 Qg7 it isn't hard to see Re8 (it's really the only try). But if you think about it, you really have to see quite a lot, especially the end finding Bc8 as well to compensate for the Bishop getting trapped in the corner.
|Feb-23-07|| ||awfulhangover: I saw this correctly in 10 seconds. My personal best for Friday. But it looks like a Tuesday, doesn't it?|
|Feb-23-07|| ||jmfundal: sorry try this again...I am new to chess and am trying to take as much from this game as possible...|
Why is 19...F5 not a possibility? He loses a rook but avoids immediate mate. Am I to assume that two bishops vs blacks one knight will eventually lead to his doom and black would rather concede now than drag the game out?
|Feb-23-07|| ||dzechiel: <jmfundal: ...Am I to assume that two bishops vs blacks one knight will eventually lead to his doom and black would rather concede now than drag the game out?> Yup, that's exactly the case.|
|Feb-23-07|| ||builttospill: Yes. You can consider the bishops to be worth 3 pawns each, and slightly better in that the pair of bishops can control both colored squares. Towards the end of the game the advantage of 3 pawns magnifies in the sense that there are less pieces on the board to stop the player with the advantage from doing what he wants to do. Sure, black could theoretically draw this game, but it would require a serious blunder on whites part. So there is an element of respect in this decision.|
|Feb-23-07|| ||Fisheremon: <thesonicvision: what happens if 15..Kd8??> 16.Re4 Qf2+ 17.Kh1 ( )|
|Feb-23-07|| ||kevin86: White sac a lot of pieces to wind up behind in material:two bishops and a rook vs two rooks and a knight. He also mates after: 19 ...g8 20 e1+ d8 21 f6#|
|Feb-23-07|| ||kellmano: Savchenko might only be warming the Chelsea sub-bench, but it seems he plays a nice game of chess.|
|Feb-23-07|| ||RandomVisitor: Black's resignation was *perhaps* a bit premature. After 19...f6 White must demonstrate that he knows what he is doing:
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1. (0.99): 20.Bxh8 Kf7 21.Bc8 Nd7 22.Bxd7 Rxh8 23.f4 f5 24.Ba4 c6 25.Kf3 Re8 26.Bc2 Kf6
2. (0.93): 20.Re1+ Kf7 21.Bxh8 Nc6 22.Be6+
|Feb-23-07|| ||scholes: what is problem with bh6 q*h6 q*d4 f6 h4|
|Feb-23-07|| ||TrueBlue: Random Visitor, you can say black pooled an ala Topalov :)|
|Feb-23-07|| ||playground player: Here I was, walking on air because I solved a Friday puzzle--and then along comes everybody else to say how easy it was. And I thought I was getting smarter! BTW, White's 16th move had better be a dilly because he's badly under the gun with an obvious mating threat. Those situations do tend to focus a solver's concentration, though.|
|Feb-23-07|| ||sambo: <kellmano: Savchenko might only be warming the Chelsea sub-bench, but it seems he plays a nice game of chess.>|
Always nice to get a little bit of anti-Chelsea humor.
I found this puzzle maybe a tad easier than most Fridays, but not much. I saw that black was basically mated with Bh6, but that I needed to remove the guards. The trick was winning back the queen with Rd8; now white's threats are too great and black's development is so far behind that the game is basically over. I didn't immediately see white winning the rook but I feel good about seeing as much as I did. It's nice to notice improvement on these puzzles. Maybe I can get a couple Sundays now.
|Feb-23-07|| ||coolbob: I got it but i missed the Qg7 idea darn!|
|Feb-23-07|| ||Mendrys: Only partial (1/4) credit for me as I missed 17...Qg7. I only saw 17...Kg8 18. Re8#. I feel confident that I would have found 18. Re8+ and 19. BxQ but finding the win from there would have been difficult to find for me. I need to remember that these later week puzzles are more complicated than they first appear.|
|Feb-23-07|| ||Trouble: easy but you gotta see the final tactic|
|Feb-23-07|| ||LancelotduLac: Savon's play deteriorated over the years, until he sadly passed away in 2005, but he should be better remembered. His stunning win in the 1971 USSR Championship was one of the greatest chess upsets of all time.|
|Feb-23-07|| ||Jonathan Sarfati: Two pawns are simply not enough for a piece, since they are not passed and are unlikely to become so. It wouldn't be long before the extra piece is coordinated to pick them off. It is especially good that the extra piece comprises 2Bs v N, and that there are still Rs on the board.|
|Feb-24-07|| ||vibes43: Good puzzle- Will return to study further. Thanks all for the helpful postings.|
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